Amph Captain America: The Winter Soldier

Discussion in 'Community' started by gonzoforce, Nov 9, 2008.

  1. Rogue1-and-a-half Manager Emeritus who is writing his masterpiece

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    Oh, man, really?! That's . . . awesome. I love me some Toby Jones.
  2. DarthIntegral Chosen One

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    There's always a bigger Thanos
  3. Jedi Merkurian Episode VII Thread-Reaper and Rumor Naysayer

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    Given the premise as implied by the trailer, who I'd love to see in the next Cap movie would be the Super Patriot/U.S. Agent. Of course, I've been saying that ever since they announced that there would be Captain America movies :p However, the concern would be that such a movie would be a re-tread of Winter Soldier.
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  4. I Are The Internets Chosen One

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    So Thanos is Thanos's Thanos for Thanos?
  5. dp4m Chosen One

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    No, that's Death.
  6. I Are The Internets Chosen One

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    I thought Death was just a metaphorical concept that Thanos is infatuated with. Is Death an actual character in these?
  7. dp4m Chosen One

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    His girlfriend.
  8. I Are The Internets Chosen One

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  9. DarthIntegral Chosen One

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    From a certain point of view
  10. Darth-Lando Chosen One

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    Don't tell Deadpool.
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  11. I Are The Internets Chosen One

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    Deadpool can do anything since he's a literal Deus ex Machina.
  12. soitscometothis Force Ghost

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    Thanos had a crush on Death before Neil Gaiman made it trendy.
  13. VadersLaMent Chosen One

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    Saw the latest trailer during Thor 2. I did not notice before there appears to be a fleet of helicarriers. It showed the entire elevator fight in the trailer which at first I thought was a bit too much to show, but then it doesn't spoil much and it just means I'll see it more than once.
  14. The2ndQuest Tri-Mod With a Mouth

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    Yeah that was a good choice for them to use in the extended preview- something you'd want to see again, as opposed to just a 5 min chunk that would leave you with A/V déjà vu in April.
  15. VadersLaMent Chosen One

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    I have labored over Captain America's strength level....because I am a giant nerd like that.

    In the last Olympics when Bolt won his races an item came out that if a human being could have his muscles fibers taken to their biomechanical limits(something not possible without genetic tampering) they could sprint at a bit over 40 mph. Bolt was moving in the 20's. The top sprinters in the world get up ober 20mph.

    In the Handbooks Of The Marvel Universe it states that Cap can lift 800 pounds over his head. I always took this as a clean and jerk, not a "press" as stated since the abilty to press any weight, regardless if it is a bench press or curl or squat is not a good indicator of hitting power. Arnold Schwarzenegger could at one time bench press 500 pounds. He is athletic to a degree, an avid swimmer, skier, former military, some stunt training, soccer, etc. Make no mistake he could bust teeth out of your face. Anyone over 200 pounds hits hard, and someone with that strength will have worked indirectly their fast twitch muscles.

    But when you look at Olympic lifters it is not only a pressing strength but a quick athletic movement to get that weight up, hence a better indicator of power. In the last Olympics this one dude at 206 pound C&J 530 pounds. This dude can't beat a Tyson in his prime, but he can probably hit as hard.

    So, Cap at biomechanical limits leaves all this behind. He might actually be able to simply press over his head 800 pounds, but using twice Bolt speed as an indicator...twice as fast, he may also be able to clean and jerk twice as much as any Olympic lifter. The current record is 585 pounds. If Cap is twice this at 1170 then his ability to stand up to gods and superpowered beings makes just as tad more sense. His bone, ligament, and muscle density would be ridiculous. He can probably take a bullet like I can take a bee sting. His punches might travel at a couple of hundred miles per hour, he'd hit you before you knew he moved. this is why Cap can fight Wolverine and hold his own despite Logan's adamantium bones and regeneration.

    I put way too much thought into this stuff...with happiness.
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  16. JoinTheSchwarz Comms Admin & Community Manager

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    So, do you like movies about gladiators?

    Jokes apart, I saw the trailer in the big screen and it looked fantastic. I think this is going to be the jewel of Phase Two.
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  17. SithLordDarthRichie London CR

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    It will certainly be bigger in terms of scale, with potentially a much better villain.
  18. VadersLaMent Chosen One

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    I liked the Red Skull and could have listened to him talk for 2 hours.
  19. SithLordDarthRichie London CR

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    Red Skull is a great villain, but I didn't rate Hugo Weaving's performance of him. The accent sounded awkward and he didn't seem like he was that interested in the whole thing really. That is what let the movie down for me, and why I regard it as one of the weaker movies of Phase One.

    But this one does seem like it will be better, though it's hard to judge from a trailer.
  20. VadersLaMent Chosen One

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    I went back to look, and did not see this mentioned. But one of the dudes in the elevator....(big spoiler)

    SPOILS! (open)
    Is Frank Grillo who is also seen when Cap jumps out of the aircraft without a parachute. He is going to be Crossbones. I saw this totally by accident, and didn't want to see it, but there it is.


    It was cast in march so i feel like it must have been posted before but I didn't see it.
  21. I Are The Internets Chosen One

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    I really hope slj doesn't die.
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  22. Aytee-Aytee Force Ghost

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    I wouldn't mind if he does die.

    Because...
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    That being said....I still want a standalone War Machine movie.
  23. I Are The Internets Chosen One

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    No that wouldn't work if RDJ doesn't come back.
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  24. The_Four_Dot_Elipsis Force Ghost

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    If it tops the wonderful Iron Man Three I'll be truly astonished.
  25. VadersLaMent Chosen One

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    I thought Iron Man was beter than IM3, and First Avenger was just as good as Iron Man.