Okay, as many of you know, the (other) chief antagonist in the Thrawn Trilogy was Joruus C'baoth, who was in fact a clone of Jorus C'baoth, whom we met in Outbound Flight. Both characters are extremely powerful Jedi masters with extremely skewed idea about how a Jedi should use his power. Now, what I find rather peculiar is this... I can accept that the clone somehow inherited the original's powers, but how could he also inherit his memories, his beliefs, his entire personality? Certainly, Palpatine would not RAISE such a powerful adversary with such strong loyalties to the Jedi. Then, as I was rereading the original, I found some rather fascinating passages. "Tell me more about the Outbound Flight project," Luke said, determined not to get dragged off the topic. "You set off from Yoga Minor, remember, searching for other life outside the galaxy. What happened to the ship and the other Jedi Masters who were with you?" C'baoth's eyes took on a faraway look. "They died, of course, he said, his voice distant. "All of them died. I alone survived to return." He looked suddenly at Luke. "It changed me, you know." "I understand," Luke said quietly. So that was why C'baoth seemed so strange. Something had happened to him on that flight : "Tell me about it." For a long moment C'baoth was silent. Luke waited, jostled by the bumps as the carriage wheels ran over the uneven ground. "No," C'baoth said at last, shaking his head. "Not now. Perhaps later." He nodded toward the front of the carriage. "We are here." Notice that C'baoth somehow remembers events that occured after his genetic template was taken. Now, I have to stress that Joruus is unaware he;s a clone and is indeed treated as as insane for the entire story. Thrawn believes (wrongly) that this makes him easier to exploit and Luke will. in the last confrontation, attempt to treat and heal C'baoth's madness, which leads to another key clue. "No," Luke said, shaking his head. This was, perhaps, his last chance to bring the insane Jedi back. To save him, as he had saved Vader aboard the second Death Star. "You aren't in any shape to build anything, Master C'baoth. You're not well. But I can help you if you'll let me." C'baoth's face darkened. "How dare you say such things?" he demanded. "How dare you even think such blasphemy about the great Jedi Master C'baoth?" "But that's just it," Luke said gently. "You're not the Jedi Master C'baoth. Not the original one, anyway. The proof is there in the Katana's records. Jorus C'baoth died a long time ago during the Outbound Flight Project." "Yet I am here." "Yes," Luke nodded. "You are. But not Jorus C'baoth. You see, you're his clone." C'baoth's whole body went rigid. "No," he said. "No. That can't be." Luke shook his head. "There's no other explanation. Surely that thought has occurred to you before." C'baoth took a long, shuddering breath . . . and then, abruptly, he threw his head back and laughed. "Watch him," Mara snapped, eyeing the old man warily over the throne's armrest. "He pulled this same stunt on Jomark, remember?" "It's all right," Luke said. "He can't hurt us." "Ah, Skywalker, Skywalker," C'baoth said, shaking his head. "You, too? Grand Admiral Thrawn, the New Republic, and now you. What is this sudden fascination with clones and cloning?" He barked another laugh; and then, without warning, turned deadly serious. "He does not understand, Jedi Skywalker," he said earnestly. "Not Grand Admiral Thrawn—not any of them. The true power of the Jedi is not in these simple tricks of matter and energy. The true might of the Jedi is that we alone of all those in the galaxy have the power to grow beyond ourselves. To extend ourselves into all the reaches of the universe." Luke glanced at Mara, got a shrug and puzzled look in return. "We don't understand, either," he told C'baoth. "What do you mean?" C'baoth took a step toward him. "I have done it, Jedi Skywalker," he whispered, his eyes glittering in the dim light. "With General Covell. What even the Emperor never did. I took his mind in my hands and altered it. Re-formed it and rebuilt it into my own image." Now, both versions of C'baoth are best known for their abilities in telekinesis and telepathy. Indeed, neither version seems to own a lightsaber. Even other Jedi Masters in Outbound Flight are astonished by the sheer level of what the man can do just by thinking really hard. So it has occured to me... what if Jorus and Joruus are NOT separate entities, but rather the same Force presence echoing into an identical body. Palpatine did the same trick in Dark Empire, and his powers were never as mental-based as C'baoth's were. I don't think there was a master plan involved, simply Palpatine cloning a powerful Jedi and accidentally drawing in the original. Consider this encounter between Luke and his own clone. The clone. His clone. Was that what was causing this strange pressure in his mind? The close presence of an exact duplicate that was itself drawing on the Force? Notice the supposition that a physical duplicate does indeed draw from the same part of the Force as the original. What would happen if you did the same thing with a Jedi master who had already passed, one who very specifically specialized in manipulating the Force's energies? My answer: You accidentally resurrect the original, who in this case was already unstable. What do you think? Is it concievable Zahn intended them to be the same Jedi Master in different bodies? Most people only ever ask him about Thrawn, not his other great villain, so I've found no real canon proof either way. Still, I'm curious what you think.