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JCC Chapel Hill shooting deaths of three Muslim students

Discussion in 'Community' started by Lord Vivec, Feb 11, 2015.

  1. Lord Vivec

    Lord Vivec Chosen One star 9

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  2. Darth Guy

    Darth Guy Chosen One star 10

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    Parking is a serious issue.
     
  3. dp4m

    dp4m Chosen One star 10

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    Well, to be fair, while the killing was senseless they should have known better than to dispute parking with a white man.
     
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  4. I Are The Internets

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    Where's Juliet these days?
     
  5. dp4m

    dp4m Chosen One star 10

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    On a serious note, while it's sooooooomewhat too soon to declare religious (or, in this case, anti-religious) motives for anyone, this is a tragedy no matter what.
     
  6. Darth Punk

    Darth Punk JCC Manager star 7 Staff Member Manager

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    stupid hicks
     
  7. I Are The Internets

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    I agree, this is an absolute **** thing that has happened.


    Said Ric Ollie at the bar.
     
  8. Darth Punk

    Darth Punk JCC Manager star 7 Staff Member Manager

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    it says one of the victims was her sis, is that something to do with isis?
     
  9. Lord Vivec

    Lord Vivec Chosen One star 9

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    No it's the Secret Intelligence Service
     
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  10. Jedi_Reject_Jesse

    Jedi_Reject_Jesse Jedi Grand Master star 7

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    better call saul
     
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  11. GrandAdmiralJello

    GrandAdmiralJello Comms Admin ❉ Moderator Communitatis Litterarumque star 10 Staff Member Administrator

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    Basically this. Whether or not it turns out the killings were motivated by the victims' religion or just parking (?!) it is still awful.


    Missa ab iPhona mea est.
     
  12. Darth Punk

    Darth Punk JCC Manager star 7 Staff Member Manager

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    Either way, it's senseless
     
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  13. Debo

    Debo Force Ghost star 6

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    This thread is quietly saying: Deraaaaaail meeee...
     
  14. Darth Morella

    Darth Morella Force Ghost star 6

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    Oh wow, I read about this on at least two different websites and there was no mention of a parking dispute. I thought the shooter had like, broken into their house or something.
     
  15. Ender Sai

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    I'm confused; the man turns himself in in "Pittsboro". Which is the phonetic spelling of the correct spelling of Pittsburgh. But in NC, not PA. What. Do you really have what is basically a child's spelling as the name of an actual place? [face_laugh] [face_flag]

    This is pretty barbaric though. On the one hand you have this shooting; on the other, two friends arrested for allegedly plotting to attack someone with a knife or machete in the name of IS.

    I don't know much or anything of the demographics of Chapel Hill, but Fairfield - in the story I linked - is a working class neighbourhood in Sydney's West.

    I'm not suggesting an all out war, but I think it's pretty plain to see there's enormous tension and resentment at the friction these two worlds generate. At the core? Whether a non-existent fart in the heavens, a capricious and evil entity named God, really had a son called Jebus or whether he revealed himself to an illiterate named Mohammed. Imagine if fans hurt each other over the old vs new EU in Star Wars (and didn't just smash and burn their collections, lol) - it's the same thing. A stupid conflict predicated on the apparent deeds of an entity that never existed.

    By all means, let's dislike, hate, fear, and plot to harm people for their deviant beliefs in the wrong parts of the mythical god's backstory.
     
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  16. anakinfansince1983

    anakinfansince1983 Skywalker Saga/LFL/YJCC Manager star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    Not hardly. Wrong part of North Carolina for that.

    I do know the demographics of Chapel Hill. It's a very liberal town. The urban areas of North Carolina are fairly liberal (hence my comment to Punk), and Chapel Hill would be the most left-wing of all, with Asheville being close.

    It's also a college town, its economic and social structures revolving almost entirely around the university, and my initial reaction to all the stories I've read on this--ongoing parking dispute at a condo complex near campus--was "grumpy middle-aged dude who hates college kids."

    Of course if you hate college kids and you live in Chapel Hill, you're a dumb***, especially with Raleigh and Durham close enough to make a commute to a job in RTP just as easy. But I don't know where the guy worked.

    I would guess that that's where it started, and his anti-theism may have played into it and he may have gone after their faith on top of other things. The father of the two sisters wants it investigated as a hate crime because the man had been harassing them but I don't know that he had said anything specifically anti-Muslim.

    Regardless, it's a sick situation.
     
  17. Darth Punk

    Darth Punk JCC Manager star 7 Staff Member Manager

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    i was just being a smartarse, punning the shooter's name (craig stephen hicks)
     
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  18. anakinfansince1983

    anakinfansince1983 Skywalker Saga/LFL/YJCC Manager star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    I didn't even pay attention to his name. Oops.
     
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  19. beezel26

    beezel26 Jedi Master star 7

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    The guy was a complete menace to his neighbors. Yet he was a college student himself becoming a paralegal. The teacher said he helped out a lot of people. But he was a stickler for parking and noise and rather rude about it. He was your resident Jerk on the block but not the criminal kind. Worse part is the guy liked the movie Falling Down. He didn't just like it, he thought it was hilarious according to his exwife who divorced him 17 years ago. That's the kind of thing that can scare you.
     
  20. anakinfansince1983

    anakinfansince1983 Skywalker Saga/LFL/YJCC Manager star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    "...not the criminal kind."

    Really?
     
  21. Rew

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    In other words, white?
     
  22. beezel26

    beezel26 Jedi Master star 7

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    No, he may have been a jerk but he wasn't a thief, a criminal, or a serial harasser. He was within his rights to have people's cars towed for parking. Plus he got confrontational about it. But he didn't spray paint someone's car or key it cause they parked in his spot. He was jerk but not a criminal one.
     
  23. anakinfansince1983

    anakinfansince1983 Skywalker Saga/LFL/YJCC Manager star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    As much as people can say about what's wrong with North Carolina, murder is still illegal here.

    So yes, he's a criminal.
     
  24. Ender Sai

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  25. Darth Morella

    Darth Morella Force Ghost star 6

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    No, he just shot them in the head. Totally not criminal behavior.