JCC Chapel Hill shooting deaths of three Muslim students

The way Christians observe Lent is similar to how Muslims observe Ramadan, so it's not a terribly big stretch. But it's nice to see the Abrahamics unite under their silly traditions, I guess.

 

We'll see. It'll be interesting to see if Christians observe Ramadan, come June.

 

jews for jesus

 

I was eleven when I left religion behind... so, thirty years, now (holy ****).

 

see i find it hard to draw a line like that because its not like i got baptised into atheism or anything. it was more of a gradual process or, perhaps even moreso, a failure of religion to take hold

 

Fun fact: those guys (or a variation of an African-American "Thirteenth Tribe" like group) were a main-stay in Times Square for... probably decades. Most of my childhood that I can remember at least for sure. When Times Square got "cleaned up" those were one of the groups to get swept out.

I miss them.

 

For me, I think it was a line. I decided that I wasn't into it anymore, and was finished. I told my grandmother, who had me in all the catholic classes, through confirmation, about my decision, and she supported it. I was pretty into it for a few years before that decision, though.

 

Yeah, the sunset feasts - made quite difficult in Australia because we've late sunsets at that time of year - seem like a remarkable affair.

I've given up God for Lent, as I do every day year.

 

I was a child when I made my decision, though, so the announcement was kind of necessary. I spent weekends with my grandma, and she took me to church with her. When I made the announcement, like I said, she was pretty respectful. So I just stopped going with her... wasn't a big deal. Neither of my parents are religious, at all, so I didn't need to tell them anything.

 

I'm still not sure what the term means, religious. It's not label I would want. I love the teachings of Jesus, Buddha, Krishna ect but not as part of an organization or set of rules and morals. I just saw it all as a path to enlightenment. a finger pointing to the moon. I think it's somewhat true anything can be turned into a religion. I mean if Zen can be, anything can. They all seem to miss the point for the most part. Modern day Zen is as confusing as any church ...it's really hard to make sense of any of it. It's archaic when organized but I'm not sure if it's a bad thing.
I can't buy into arguments it has been the cause of any bloodshed or war. Or that the past would have been any less bloody without it. And if there are a percentage who actually need it to behave as decent humans then I say keep it. Taking it away would be like taking AA away from drunks or taking away shrinks.
Besides there is all the good. There are thousands of nuns feeding and clothing people every day. I do see many many Christians doing very good things and who are always giving but these things don't make the news. They are all over Africa, India, Asian countries feeding kids, rescuing them from the sex slave industry. The amount of good they do is endless and for the most part unseen. Things I'm not doing. I just can't bring myself to bash something like that because there are a percentage of nut's, hypocrites and screw ups in any group. I bet the percentage of a holes is the exact same in all groups.
Sure it would be nice if the planet evolved beyond religion altogether but we haven't reached that stage yet. not even close.
Let's face it the majority of people whether atheist or religious whatever those terms mean are obsessed with the material and plastic junk. We spend billions over Christmas while the other half of the world starves. We do this every day with consumerism and I can't see that as very evolved. The next stage is then blame someone else for the worlds problems.
When this ends and the game of black vs white, Us vs Them ends we might start getting somewhere.

 

Abrahamic brothers gotta hate. Thank your YHVH. Joseph Campbell once said 'I don't have to have faith, I have experience'. People need to step outside their current experiences *PRIVILAGES* and take the time to immerse themselves in the things they don't understand. Especially for any of you that have children, teach them to LISTEN to people outside of their faith and race instead of telling them how they are right/wrong or whatever BS. ya'll

 

http://www.theonion.com/articles/christ-converts-to-islam,754/

 

Well, it's vacuous, superficial, and papers over the issues with a veneer of profound insight so of course you like it.

 

Well said.

 

I wonder if I can sue the parents in that horrendous clip for child abuse.

 

Then I should be liking you, no?

 

No, you should do some research first. It's not that your approach is overly simplistic, by assuming a good side/bad side to the argument. It's just... wait, no. That's exactly what it is.

Let's try more guidance, stopping short of spoon feeding:

Muslims and Europeans both validly feel a challenge to their established identity is occurring in Europe right now. Both are correct, and both have valid reasons for this.

What are those reasons and what makes them correct?

 

I personally don't see where it's justified to equivocate between feeling threatened because openly hostile groups are passing legislation that makes it literally illegal for you to practice your preferred lifestyle, and feeling threatened merely because other people who choose not to emulate you. Come on.

 

You could have just said you have no insight into how Europeans feel. Would have used less words.

 

Feelings are perfectly fine. But your argument has no credibility if you're going to argue that having the force of a nation-state behind you to antagonize the other side is no different than not having such advantages. That's just a patently stupid claim. Both sides having grievances is definitively not the same as both sides being on equal footing.

 

I didn't say that though. Shall I quote myself, for the avoidance of doubt?