JCC Child born with HIV apparently cured.

Discussion in 'Community' started by Adam of Nuchtern, Mar 4, 2013.

  1. Adam of Nuchtern Force Ghost

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    http://www.npr.org/blogs/health/201...cure-of-hiv-in-a-child-say-its-a-game-changer

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  2. timmoishere Force Ghost

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  3. Aytee-Aytee Force Ghost

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    Interesting. With those traces of HIV DNA and RNA in the child's bloodstream....could this be the first step towards a vaccine as well?
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  4. Debo Chosen One

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    The specialist's name is Gay. I really wish I could say something constructive and *not* think of a stupid joke.
  5. DantheJedi Force Ghost

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  6. Kyle Katarn Chosen One

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    I was thinking along those same lines too. Re-watched that ep on Saturday and thought I was imagining things when I saw this story on Sunday.

    Were I the CEO of a drug company who made one (or more) of these antiretroviral drugs, I would be donating them by the truckload to any lab or hospital which was looking to conduct further research along these lines. There are times where profit needs to be set aside for the greater good and this would be one of those times.
  7. Rogue_Ten Chosen One

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    you've come a long way baby
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  8. JoinTheSchwarz Comms Admin & Community Manager

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    I don't know, Kyle. If you were the CEO of a large drug company, you probably would've lost your soul many years ago.
  9. Rogue_Ten Chosen One

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    also CEOs cant just do whatever they want. they have a legal obligation to the shareholders that keeps them from doing the right thing on pain of legal action against them. what you've described could land a CEO in jail for defrauding shareholders
  10. GrandAdmiralJello Moderator Communitatis Litterarumque

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    Ten's right.

    I'm no hippie, but I found that principle one of the most upsetting things I'd ever learned about corporate law. I get it: you have a fiduciary duty to people who spent their own money investing in your thing, but... ugh. Dislike.
  11. Rogue1-and-a-half Manager Emeritus who is writing his masterpiece

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    I saw this story earlier this morning and it put a smile on my face. It's no guarantee that a genuine cure for the disease for all the sufferers of it will come out of this, but it's another step toward that and that makes me happy.
  12. Rogue_Ten Chosen One

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    glad to see you still have enough of a soul left to be disturbed by that :p
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  13. Kyle Katarn Chosen One

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    This is when you label it as a "charitable donation", mainly for the tax writeoffs (which these things can generate, trust me) but also the positive PR which is never a bad thing, especially for a drug company. I've been around these types for years, I know all too well what they can/cannot do and I also know how they operate, this wouldn't be off the table at all.
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  14. Healer_Leona Manager Emeritus

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    First thought that came to mind was 32 years ago???? Wow!
  15. Mortimer Snerd Force Ghost

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    Technically it's been around for more than 32 years, but Rock Hudson marked the beginning of everyone knowing about it.
  16. VadersLaMent Chosen One

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    Man will never be free until the last king is strangled with the entrails of the last priest. — Denis Diderot

    That is one awesome sig, yo.
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  17. Mortimer Snerd Force Ghost

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  18. VadersLaMent Chosen One

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    You are welcome. One day we shall meet and I shalt buy you an alcholic beverage of your choice.
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  19. Mortimer Snerd Force Ghost

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    In kind, I shall do the same!
  20. GrandAdmiralJello Moderator Communitatis Litterarumque

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    Yes, but that doesn't stop shareholder derivative suits. You'd still have to defend that sort of action in court, and I think that (sadly) letting go of an HIV cure for PR or tax writeoffs in lieu of the profits is so extreme that it wouldn't be protected by the business judgment rule.
  21. Rogue_Ten Chosen One

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    you could just, go ahead and do it, paul farmer-style, (rockstar harvard medical anthropologist famous for, among other things, the time he straight up stole a bunch of anti-retrovirals from harvard research labs and just took em in a suitcase to haiti and started passing em out), consequences be damned, but the kind of people who would do that simply aren't the kind of people who become CEOs of for-profit companies. our system places sociopaths and near-sociopaths in that role, not extreme altruists
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  22. Mortimer Snerd Force Ghost

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    I wanna have your babies.
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  23. Rogue_Ten Chosen One

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    have paul farmer's babies. we need more of him, not me
  24. Darth Guy Chosen One

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    Were I the CEO of a drug company, I'd try to find a way back to this universe BEFORE IT'S TOO LATE.
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  25. V-2 Force Ghost

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    I'm going to wait for the peer review before getting excited.