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Discussion Chris Terrio to Co-write Episode IX

Discussion in 'Star Wars: Episode IX - Spoilers Allowed' started by seasider, Dec 26, 2017.

  1. jedijax

    jedijax Episode IX Treatment Contest Runner-up star 6 VIP - Game Winner

    May 2, 2013
    Maybe Terrio will give us a massive dark side monster!
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  2. MasterPrince713

    MasterPrince713 Jedi Knight star 2

    Sep 13, 2017
    You make jokes, but I'm all for Kylo Ren seeking a giant, nightmarish dark side monster instead of another disgusting creature scene like with Luke and the space walrus or Finn and the alien warthog.
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  3. jedijax

    jedijax Episode IX Treatment Contest Runner-up star 6 VIP - Game Winner

    May 2, 2013
    Good point. We've seen creatures so far but they haven't done much more than chirp, cry, snort, and squirt blue milk.
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  4. MasterPrince713

    MasterPrince713 Jedi Knight star 2

    Sep 13, 2017
    Eh, in fairness we got the Rathtars, but they were pretty much a callback to the Trash Compactor creature, the Mynock and space slug as well as the Rancor.

    A monster that'd be a ripoff of Spider-Man's Symbiote nemesis seems to be right up these peoples' alley and they technically own Marvel too.
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  5. Nipuhanipera

    Nipuhanipera Jedi Grand Master star 5

    May 25, 2014
    I'm surprised that this actually was brought up. 13:08 - onward:

  6. Gemlake

    Gemlake Jedi Knight star 1

    Dec 9, 2015
    I enjoyed Argo enough to give Terrio a pass on co-writing Batman v. Superman. He's known for doing extensive preparation for his screenplays, including a heavy focus
    on lore and world building. For BvS, he researched "everything from ideas about American power to the structure of revenge tragedies to the huge canon of DC Comics to Amazon mythology."

    I think he could be a good fit for JJ, as he could provide a thematically dense screenplay, and JJ could translate that for a broad audience.

    Terrio also has experience writing the third movie in a trilogy. Although this is perhaps stating the obvious, he said in an interview: "the middle film tends to be the darkest one. I do think Man of Steel through Justice League, it is one saga really. . . . I felt compellted to go back and try to lift us and myself into a different tonal place because I think when you write a darker film, sometimes you want to redeem it all a bit."
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  7. seasider

    seasider Jedi Master star 1

    Mar 12, 2002
    The thing about screenwriters is if you're in Hollywood long enough, you're gonna be associated with movies that turn out to be real stinkers and unfortunately it follows you around. I mean you look at Akiva Goldsman who has been writer/director for over 2 decades now and been involved in tons of movies and TV shows and he's won an Oscar but yet whenever his name gets brought up on a blog, the blogger is quick to point out his involvement in Batman and Robin. A movie that happened over 20 years ago.

    In Terrio's case, he doesn't have a long enough resume to accurately gauge how he's gonna approach Episode IX. But knowing Abrams, he will have the most influence over what ends up as the final draft.
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  8. Nipuhanipera

    Nipuhanipera Jedi Grand Master star 5

    May 25, 2014
    I don't know if I'm that generous. I mean, if Aaron Sorkin wrote something as bad as BvS, I'd be skeptical about his next project.
  9. mlsw

    mlsw Jedi Knight star 3

    May 30, 2017
    I enjoyed and a lot Argo too. It really is one of the movies I've loved most in the last years.
    I still hold my breath every time I see it.
    But the main accomplishment of the movie, to me, is how the hystorical context is described.
    How the audience is provided of all the information needed to understand what was going on
    at that time, without the movie - or the characters and the conversations between them - to be
    pedantic. That is not easy at all.

    But I don't know why Terrio was chosen.
    Because when it comes to BvsS, and that interview - @Gemlake - that is what scares me.
    I hope he'll dig into the SW lore.
    Which is already full of all the "mithology" needed... to end the Skywalker Saga.

    What I want, it's a movie to close that tale.
    Something that may put it all together.
    Then, do whatever you want finding inspiration wherever it may please you...
    but please, before, give us a sense of closure.
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  10. Nipuhanipera

    Nipuhanipera Jedi Grand Master star 5

    May 25, 2014
    I very much would want to hear that boardroom discussion.
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  11. MasterPrince713

    MasterPrince713 Jedi Knight star 2

    Sep 13, 2017
    Looking back at it all, I'm finding the SW verse, (the Legends portion of it anyway), to be comparable to a lesser Marvel/DC multiverse. Perhaps they're trying to give SW that sort of feel since Terrio was part of the DC verse.
  12. ComfortablyNunb

    ComfortablyNunb Jedi Knight star 1

    Nov 21, 2015
    For those still holding Terrio's DC work against him:

    As I've said elsewhere, Terrio has also written a fantastic, unproduced drama called THE ENDS OF THE EARTH in addition to Argo.
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  13. TheLastHaterOfZero

    TheLastHaterOfZero Jedi Padawan star 1

    Sep 5, 2016
    TBH I think JJ bought in the perfect person to balance him out from what I can tell of Terrio's prior experience (despite the quality of some of those works). Terrio's writing tends to be more grounded in reality, and while that may seem like a weird fit for Star Wars, I think him and JJ could learn something from each other, and bring together a story that feels much more focused and interlocked.
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  14. The PiedPiper of Alderaan

    The PiedPiper of Alderaan Jedi Master star 4

    Sep 16, 2015
    I think BvS had a lot of issues but a lot of it had to do with Snyder's over-flourished wagnerian directing. The script suffered from a really bad "final showdown" that was as visually ugly as unspired. I didnt like Luthor's characterisation and the "Martha" thing is still a bit WTF but in the end the script is not that bad (i didnt say it was good). And since he co-wrote it we dont know what's his part in the script or his role in the story process.

    I havent seen the other movies...did he write them on his own?
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  15. The Legions of Lettow

    The Legions of Lettow Jedi Master star 4

    Oct 14, 2015
    Well, I’ve always loved Batman since I was a kid. And I liked Superman a lot too. Before I had seen Star Wars in 1977, I had grown up on the George Reeve Superman and Adam West Batman. Then there was the Christopher Reeve Superman I and II and the Tim Burton Batman movies. Also the Batman Animated Series.

    That said, the Nolan Batman trilogy is the greatest superhero series of all time. Incredible.

    When I heard Christopher Nolan and Jonathan Nolan were doing Superman, I was happy. But, C Nolan was the “godfather” of Man of Steel, as Mark Hughes notes below. I loved 300 and wondered how Snyder would handle MoS.

    I understand how many people didn’t like the violence and civilian casualties (Marvel seems to get a free pass here), but I liked the movie.

    Speaking of Marvel, they’ve been slaying it. I’ve see every MCU movie except IW, which I’ll watch this weekend.

    DC, meanwhile...

    Mark Hughes below gives good reasons why DCEU has struggled. He doesn’t lay the blame at Snyder’s feet. He qualifies by being up front that he likes Snyder’s DCEU films a lot, but I still find his reasoning sound. Basically, WB didn’t think Superman could be the tent pole for DCEU and they wanted Justice League and The Batman fast.

    So, I checked out Collider Heroes, and except for Jon Schnepp on the theatrical release of BvS, the consensus seems to be far more positive on MoS and BvS. For both Hughes and Schnepp, BvS Ultimate Edition is a great film.

    So, I returned to MoS, and more accustomed to a different interpretation of Zod, loved it.

    I never saw BvS in the theaters and I’m glad I didn’t given Schnepp’s criticisms. I just saw BvS UE, the director’s cut, and thought it great. The script by Terrio was excellent with its themes and character development. But as Scott Mendelsohn, also at Forbes and who also loved BvS UE noted, you can’t have a 3-hour DCEU film, or an R-rated one. The film stands on its own, but shouldn’t be the tent pole for DCEU. Btw, he had called the theatrical release a “beautiful disaster.”

    In sum, Terrio can’t be blamed. And I do think BvS Ultimate Edition was written very well.

    For the Forbes articles by Hughes:

    And by Mendelson:

    Apparently, he rewrote a lot of it. For Snyder, it was supposed to have been MoS 2 with a cameo by Wayne/Batman. WB got excited, was disappointed by the BO of MoS, and brought in Affleck, who brought in Terrio.

    It was WB who cut 30 minutes from the director‘s cut and rearranged scenes. Read the top link by Hughes for more details.

    And here’s Jon Schepp of Collider Heroes on the BvS Ultimate Edition. He thinks MoS is almost an masterpiece, liked the way too short and stylistically uneven JL, and liked BvS theatrical release even less the second time he saw it. But as for the UE, he’s ecstatic.
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