Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Force Awakens - Spoilers Allowed' started by TelemachosJr, Jul 17, 2014.
It is a big deal. Just obviously not to you. Which is fine. You're not alone.
there are more roles for women now than ever before. when will it ever be fair enough? should men be excluded? what more can be done?
the entire uproar is ridiculous because there are plenty of females in the cast and there were always going to be. no amount of internet consternation is going to make lucasfilm change the story to ep 7.
No need to get all worked up. I'm not complaining about the additional female roles revealed in the past few months. I mostly complained when Disney thought it acceptable to only release one female role out of seven brand new ones.
Although I'm certainly surprised by the amount of female roles revealed thus far, I wasn't expecting Lucasfilm to change the story to Episode VII. Unlike yourself, I find great value in the backlash because it shows how important it is to so many people that women be given more than token representation in Star Wars. This kind of feedback helps to ensure that the opportunity for a wealth of female roles to continue in future Star Wars films.
I am both grateful and relieved to have found such voices across the Internet, and I'm appreciative of the education I received from all the sexists views out there who responded. As to those individuals who backlashed the backlash without expressing misogynist views, it was still a great opportunity for debate why Star Wars is perfect for women. Besides having Leia as a wonderful example of what female roles can be like, Star Wars doesn't rely on brute physical strength. Women can battle men using blasters, lightsabers, Force powers, starships, etc. This greatly levels the playing field.
One of my hopes for women in Star Wars is to one day see a good number of women on the battlefield alongside the men being treated as equals, both in death and victory, rather than receiving special treatment.
I heard she plays "The Keeper." Her character keeps Luke's severed hand in a mysterious box that Ridley and Boyega find early in the film..
Well without Leia RotJ would have been over in like 10 minutes with the Empire winning. Oh wait no, Luke would have stayed a farm boy if not for Leia. Yeah, that's more like it. Maybe the OT didn't have many women but it did make sure that those few were important.
Okay so now we discussed the backlash, the backlash at the backlash and all the erroneous ways people interpeted the effects of the backlash(the part where I was name-calling).
Can we now pleeeease go back on topic?
EDIT: Oh, I just had to ask.
What's the source? That new crazy "plot-leak"?
i agree with you on everything except for the fact that people complaining on the internet accomplishes anything.
I don't think Liam Neeson is that good an actor
Which droid do you mean?
Mace was written for Samuel Jackson , wasn't it?
Yoda? Heresy for anyone to think Yoda should be anything but what he is
Jar Jar? In light of his popularity that would have been devasting for the cause of women in Star Wars - and I like Jar Jar
Wedge is of no conscequence.
Maybe Chong's character will be allowed to expand.
And "indication that men will overwhelmingly drive the story" is an assumption - what if Daisy Ridley is going to be the central character of the ST?
Final Warning: EHT asked everyone to play nice this morning and the argument continued on. Get back on topic. There is a diversity thread over in SWC if you want to discuss that topic further.
I think she'll play a wall that parcour boy will jump over
And where was the "backlash" (an adverse reaction to something which has gained popularity, prominence, or influence.)?
Disney and Lucasfilm were not injured by the "outcry" nor, to my knowledge, did they respond to it?
There was a backlash at the New York Toy Fair that Hasbro didn't unveil the action figures for Hera and Sabine, only the core male characters and that they're release date was much later in Wave 2 - Hasbro and Disney (I think) responded, apolgetically, admitting they had overlooked the interest in the characters in action figure form (based in part on past sales of female figures).
And perhaps, Lupita and Gwendoline are, in fact, main characters and , as I said earlier, the contracts were not locked in or finalised at the time of the announcement. Disney and Lucasfilm could not announce them. Filming had already begun when they made it official, which is probably how long it took to wrap up. They couldn't wait that long to make an announcement for many reasons.
Where in Star Wars are women treated as unequals - on the battlefield or anywhere else?
Where are females roles in Star Wars "tokens".
Since when is quantity better than quality?
Isn't it more important for the cause of equality that the roles for are superior in content than in numbers.
Abrams history will show you the quality roles he creates for women, and not just for the sake of making them women, but because they are made more interesting by being women.
I asked nicely for everyone to go back to the damned topic. So did the mods at least twice. Let this be the last post about this none existent issue and let us go back to Christina Chong.
Yup. First me, then mavjade. So now this is the third general warning for the thread. Any more posts on that and people will be getting a vacation from the boards.
Hope she gets to play a major character, if her acting is superb. Although I am NOT sure how good of an actress she is, need to look into it. It would be something to be very proud of, if new Star Wars not just have more diversity but also very good acting to go along with that.
Hopefully JJ Abrams casted the best actor/actresses he could found.
IMO, no matter what issues you may have with the movie pre-production (Casting, plot) process it all goes away with Oscar-worthy acting like you get from modern day Superhero movies this year.
What you guys think about Christina Chong's acting?
Christina talks Dr Who. I'm beginning to like her more and more...
she's got way too many acting credits to warrant a major role
what? that doesn't make any sense.
It does. she's waaay too good to get only a cameo.
@Jedi Dragon D: She might be new to star wars but not to Sci-fi with her role in Doctor Who and the lead role in Halo Nightfall. She was also charming in that interview Tony linked. Honerstly, I have high hopes for her.
what you typed doesn't make sense.
it doesn't matter.
Can't wait to see who is playing who!
Neither can we. At this point even the hero/villain ration is blurry. I think chong was on the side of good guys in her roles. And she liked her death scene in Doctor Who.
She just tweeted:
Good now somebody can torment beg ask repeatedly till she goes insane politely ask her about her involvement in episode 7
I think it's for Halo NIghtfall.