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Saga Clone Troopers or Storm Troopers?

Discussion in 'Star Wars Saga In-Depth' started by skyrimcat9416, Jan 26, 2014.

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Clone Troopers or Storm Troopers?

  1. Clone Troopers

    98 vote(s)
    60.1%
  2. Storm Troopers

    65 vote(s)
    39.9%
  1. Brandon Rhea

    Brandon Rhea Manager Emeritus star 5 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Well said.

    I think one of the big reasons this is possible is because the clones are, up until Episode III, heroes while stormtroopers are villains. If a hero is shooting at villainous henchmen, like the clones shooting at droids, then the hero will almost always hit their target. Contrast that with the stormtroopers. Stormtroopers shooting at the main characters can't hit their targets, or else the movie will be over. So the unfortunate byproduct is that stormtroopers end up looking incompetent, and we have 37 years worth of jokes about how stormtroopers suck at shooting. Stormtroopers didn't have good opportunities to do the things clones did because of the fact that they were on the bad guy's team.
     
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  2. Orman Tagge

    Orman Tagge Jedi Knight star 4

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    Apr 10, 2014
    That's absolutely true, but it doesn't really change the facts. Of what we see, clones are just cooler.
     
  3. Brandon Rhea

    Brandon Rhea Manager Emeritus star 5 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Yeah, I agree with you. What I was saying is one of the reasons that they're cooler. They had opportunities to be cooler that the stormtroopers didn't.
     
  4. Darth Doop

    Darth Doop Jedi Master star 4

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    Apr 24, 2014
    As much as I love clones, the iconic-ness and great helmet won me over to the stormtroopers side.
     
  5. yodafan1031

    yodafan1031 Jedi Knight star 1

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    Apr 15, 2014
    I think I'd probably change my vote. I voted Stormtroopers because I prefer their look. However, the clones were far better soldiers and we did get an in depth look at them thanks to the show.
     
  6. DARTH_BELO

    DARTH_BELO Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    I would say clone troopers, simply because they seemed to have much better training and a better sense of unity/camaraderie between each other, Dedicating their lives to the cause of saving the Republic. For the stormtroopers, it was a bunch of different people-whether volunteers or being drafted-which went through the cookie-cutter churn 'em and burn 'em version of training in the Imperial Academy. A lesser sense of dedication, IMO-More of a "join the Empire and see the Galaxy" type of self-interested attitude, And it showed in their level of skill and cunning.
     
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  7. mes520

    mes520 Jedi Master star 4

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    Clone Troopers. They can shoot. Kill. Actually do things.

    Stromtroopers. They were beaten by a bunch of ewoks and couldn't shoot the broadside of a Star Cruiser to save their souls.
     
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  8. Chained Prometheus

    Chained Prometheus Jedi Master star 4

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    While I generally prefer the Original Trilogy, I have to give this to the Clone Troopers. Everyone else has stated the reasons why; they're competent, they're deadly, they're badass, they had individual personalities, et cetera.
     
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  9. TrandoJedi

    TrandoJedi Jedi Master star 4

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    I voted for the Stormtroopers, maybe that didn't have as much personality as Clones but I liked it that way. The Clones in AOTC reminded me of the Stormtroopers so I liked them more there than in ROTS. Stormtroopers were a symbol of fear, I've just never been a fan of the militaristic Clone personality many of the clones had.
     
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  10. SteveMcgrath

    SteveMcgrath Jedi Youngling

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    May 6, 2014
    I'm gonna have to say Clones, even though there were clones, they felt more like real people. Besides that, they actually had competence in battle, so much so they completed Order 66 pretty well. So did Stormtroopers as long as the person they were firing at wasn't a main character.
     
  11. Force Smuggler

    Force Smuggler Force Ghost star 7

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    Sep 2, 2012
    The clones from the Micro-Series were pretty similar and enjoyable imo. They were still cool in TCW but things were pretty over the top.
     
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  12. TrandoJedi

    TrandoJedi Jedi Master star 4

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    Yeah (just about everything is enjoyable in the micro-series though ;)). I've always liked the Phase I clones and Stormtroopers alot more than Phase II variety in general for some reason.
     
  13. Force Smuggler

    Force Smuggler Force Ghost star 7

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    The Phase 2 armor was better looking than Phase 1 but nothing could top those ARC Troopers using hand signals during their mission.
     
  14. CoolyFett

    CoolyFett Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    LOL they were owning chit on Hoth...
     
  15. Kestrellius

    Kestrellius Jedi Youngling

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    Their victory at Hoth was just as plot-driven as them missing the rest of the time though. Come on -- the battle, as fought, should have been a resounding Rebel victory. The Rebels basically fought in the least effective way imaginable. If they'd tried to outflank the walkers, they could have taken them out in minutes with neck shots. Or blown them up by using actual bombers with torpedoes, rather than airspeeders.

    And I have to say clones. Because of the other reasons listed here, and also because their tech looks so much more awesome. Besides, they're basically one of the only factions ever to use blue weapons fire.
     
  16. natureboy76

    natureboy76 Jedi Knight star 2

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    I must choose the Stormtroopers. I never jived with the kiwi clones and their boyscout demeanor. (TCW)
     
  17. Bobatron

    Bobatron Jedi Master star 4

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    It's really hard to say. The many varieties of Clonetroopers looked like cool renditions of all the stormtroopers. Still, I can't keep up with all the clonetrooper variations and when they are used. Stormtroopers seemed to have a more recognizable structure. It's cold--that one. Flying a fighter--that one. Driving an AT-AT--that one. Everything else--that one. The Prequels and the Clone Wars show allowed us to see more of that life though even if stormtroopers weren't all clones.
     
  18. Chancellor Yoda

    Chancellor Yoda Jedi Master star 4

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    Jul 25, 2014
    The good ol' fashion storm troopers for me even though clone troopers can be cool.
     
  19. rumsmuggler

    rumsmuggler Jedi Grand Master star 7

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    Stormtroopers, as long as they are going against someone that doesn't have plot armor.
     
  20. deadly jp

    deadly jp Jedi Knight star 1

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    Clone troopers all the way, better armour, better weapons plus in TCW they each have a good role like servjng under a jedi general not like strom troopers in the OT that just run around and shoot and hardly say anything, plus their armour looks horrbile!
     
  21. solo77

    solo77 Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    Stormtroopers, no contest.
     
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  22. DarthMaulFTW

    DarthMaulFTW Jedi Youngling

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    Clone troopers. They were much more effective in battle that storm troopers which is strange considering they are exactly the same thing. I suppose it comes down to tactics - the empires blow everything up against Jedi's aggresive negotiations.
     
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  23. Iron_lord

    Iron_lord Force Ghost star 8

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    Actually, these days most stormtroopers are not clones. Maybe the Kaminoans are just better at producing soldiers than the Empire is at turning volunteers or conscripts into soldiers.
     
  24. CT1138

    CT1138 Jedi Master star 4

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    Clone Troopers.
    1. They could actually hit opponents.
    2. Damn, did they look cool:
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  25. Drewdude91

    Drewdude91 Jedi Knight star 3

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    May 21, 2011
    Stormtroopers are more iconic than Clone troopers. Most people simply think of them as the same thing anyway. But basically, when it comes to writing the saga the way it was written, the Clones were inspired by the Stormtroopers. If Lucas never made Stormtroopers, we would probably not have had Clones in the PT (or at least not in the way that they were presented).

    And I don't really get the whole "personality" issue with the storm troopers. They're just normal soldiers. There was some personality there. What really had no personality was the Clones after Order 66.