Lit Clone Wars Continuity Discussion (Spoilers Allowed)

So how far does the reference to Mortis go in Darth Plagueis, can they be attributed to the old Balance of the Force instead?

Guess I'll find out when it comes out on DVD next year.

(Unless the Disney Channek air it now that Sky Movies isn't anymore.)

I don't even remember the reference. There was a Bedlam Spirit comment. If there was anything about Mortis it must have been vague.

Well, Wookieepedia says there was an indirect mention of the Ones, and its got me a little flustered since I don't particularly care for Mortis, or just about anything else from TCW, like Darth Maul's new backstory, which I will ignore.

There's always this:

Might be a more comfortable position. My neck doesn't bend that way

Sounds like its nothing to worry about, and I don't need this head in the sand nonsense, thank you very much. I am simply not very pleased with the direction the universe is being taken.

This is the most obvious reference to Mortis in Darth Plagueis:

It had been theorized by Jedi and Sith alike that balance between the light and dark sides was actually under the guidance of a group of discorporate entities - the ones called the Celestials, perhaps - who had merged themselves with the Force thousands of generations earlier, and had continued to guide the fate of the galaxy ever since. In effect, a higher order of intermediaries, whose powers were beyond the understanding of mortal beings. But many Sith viewed the notion with disdain, for the theoretical existence of such a group had little bearing on the goal of making the Force subservient to the will of an enlightened elite. Only the Sith understood that sentient life was on the verge of a transformative leap; that through the manipulation of midi-chlorians - or the overthrow of the Forceful group that supervised them - the divide between organic life and the Force could be bridged, and death could be erased from the continuum.

The following could also be a Mortis reference:

Something was shading his sense of triumph: a vague awareness of a power greater than himself. Was it Plagueis reaching out from the far side of death to vex him? Or was the feeling a mere consequence of apotheosis?

For what it's worth, if I'm remembering right, I took the second quote as a reference to Palpatine.

It's from Palpatine's POV, so I doubt it.

Because the board isn't working for me and won't let me edit, I meant to say Anakin, not Palpatine.

I hadn't thought of that possibility... as a parallel, does that mean that what Plagueis senses at the death of Tenebrous is Palpatine?

Yeah, my assumption was definitely that Palpatine was the one Plagueis felt after killing Tenebrous. At that time, the only power greater than himself would be the Chosen One (or Mortis, but I'm skeptical on that). Perhaps it's a way of the Force leading the Sith Lord to their next apprentice, or perhaps just a reflection of pretty much every Sith's fear of death.

Sounds ambiguous enough that it doesn't have to refer to Mortis, which is fine by me.

The other quote's not very ambiguous.

I assume this refers to the scene of Plagueis' death, since the Chosen One wasn't around when Tenebrous was killed. But would Anakin circa TPM really be a power greater than Palpatine, or just someone with the potential to be greater than Palpatine? His Jedi training hadn't even started yet. Certainly we could say that he had a higher midichlorian count, but is this the same thing as actualized power? ( Or, since the Force often involves sensing the future, is this to some extent a distinction without a difference? )

Well, remember that powerful Force users are often prone to visions, often coming completely involuntarily. So, he could be sensing Anakin's latent power, or be glimpsing a future with Anakin in it. When Plagueis (possibly) sensed Palpatine, he was merely a boy with a ridiculous amount of latent potential.

Or, like Havac said, he could simply be sensing Kyle Katarn. Of course, that doesn't explain the noticeable lack of knee wobbling and loss of bowel control in that scene. Luceno could have skipped over it though, since children might be reading...

I mean, Force Grip doesn't work on the guy. I know, I've tried it. Scary.

Today's episode.... oh good grief.

How many species stereotypes were broken today?

Best Episode EVER was this one... I mean, Gamorrean Clown.. come on! And Grievous won a battle against Kenobi.. ok he fled in the end but he WON the big epic spacebattle!!!
and the YJK ripoff Younglings rock.. to boot, funny Aleena, and the best circus (without a horrificus element).

and flying Hondo... brilliant! also the "asleep" (read dead!) clone in on the bridge.. funny.

oh and Hondo.. did I say Hondo? Yeah Hondo... HONDO!

Hondo Interview with Jim Cummings on the OS


"Is Hondo a good guy or a bad guy? Yes. Definitely."

Their routine was surprisingly well choreographed for something they just made up on the fly...