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Lit Clone Wars Continuity Discussion (Spoilers Allowed)

Discussion in 'Literature' started by sabarte, May 12, 2008.

  1. blackmyron

    blackmyron Force Ghost star 6

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    One of the reasons the "micro-series" will always be superior. But they certainly made a go at it in Season One... and then shuffled him into the background after the much-ballyhooed "RISE of the BOUNTY HUNTERS" [sic] and he's never regained his footing.
     
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  2. GrandAdmiralJello

    GrandAdmiralJello Comms Admin ❉ Moderator Communitatis Litterarumque star 10 Staff Member Administrator

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    On the contrary, I loved it. Monarchist Ackbar. Like I said: hilarious. :p
     
  3. MercenaryAce

    MercenaryAce Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    Well, he was a tyrant in the classical sense - not elected but not a real king either. Between being that and a Seppie, I thought you would hate him on principle.

    But yeah....come to think of it, with Mandalore and Ryloth too, it seems that the show has taken the viewpoint that any foreign military presence whatsoever is oppressive. Even though the Republic is no more foreign to this planets than American troops are in California.....and that would be a very oversimplified position to take in the first place. If TCW was doing WW2, the French probably would have thought the British and Americans were just as bad as the Germans.
     
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  4. GrandAdmiralJello

    GrandAdmiralJello Comms Admin ❉ Moderator Communitatis Litterarumque star 10 Staff Member Administrator

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    Of course *I* hate him -- but I'm not giving them a freebie for lazy writing. :p
     
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  5. Esg

    Esg Jedi Knight star 4

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    Basically Vlaklu >>>>> Rash when it came to being an Onderon usurper

    The man even dueled the Queen in her throne-room while he had a Drexel Larva beat down the doors
     
  6. AdmiralNick22

    AdmiralNick22 Fleet Admiral of Literature star 6 Staff Member Manager

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    Bah, Ackbar is loyal to the Calamarian Council and Dac's parliamentary democracy, which apparently includes a figurehead prince. I can live with that. :p

    --Adm. Nick
     
  7. GrandAdmiralJello

    GrandAdmiralJello Comms Admin ❉ Moderator Communitatis Litterarumque star 10 Staff Member Administrator

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    Figurehead? So, what, do Mon Cals put statues of him in front of their ships? That'd be kind of weird, don't you think?
     
  8. Danzo

    Danzo Jedi Knight star 1

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    I really enjoyed the last episode with the exception of the space battle. Visually it was very appealing but beyond that it just made no sense. On top of the easy boarding action, the Sep fleet seemed to just drop on them out of nowhere. At no point did Obi-Wan seem worried about there being a fleet near by or seem hurried as though helping the padawans had come on the heels of a retreat, then suddenly out pops Grievious. Are we supposed to believe that he spends all his days just jumping up and down hyperspace lanes looking for a weaker fleet than his own to attack? Perhaps that's why he's such a lousy general, he's actually forgotten he has other things to do beyond chancing various routes.
     
  9. GrandAdmiralJello

    GrandAdmiralJello Comms Admin ❉ Moderator Communitatis Litterarumque star 10 Staff Member Administrator

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    OR Grievous is actually secretly working for Hondo, and attacked Kenobi so that Hondo could get away with kidnapping Ahsoka.


    ...if only.
     
  10. Lugija

    Lugija Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    You really thought that Grievous was the leader of the droid armies? Just look at him.
     
  11. CooperTFN

    CooperTFN TFN EU Staff Emeritus star 6 VIP

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    The trick to TCW (and, frankly, a lot of SW) is the extent to which one can imagine sensible things happening just offscreen. Obi is basically the C story of that episode; the entire battle is only there to justify the younglings not getting rescued right away. Grievous' boarding seems easy because they only have like 2 minutes of screen time to show it, but there's plenty of room to assume more is happening there that the average TCW watcher doesn't need explained to them.

    That's why I was okay with Onderon - the stuff we did see was kind of ridiculous, but it's easy enough to assume there's further unstated reasons for the political situation there. Even with the training stuff - for a second it seems like all they're learning is how grenades work, but then in the next episode Steela is doing crazy sniper stuff and and Saw is scaling palace walls, so I'm happy to believe there was much more work going on that we just didn't see.
     
  12. Esg

    Esg Jedi Knight star 4

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    So your all for telling and not showing?
     
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  13. CooperTFN

    CooperTFN TFN EU Staff Emeritus star 6 VIP

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    On Cartoon Network? Sure. In any event, I'm making an argument for the plausibility of the stories, not the quality of the storytelling.
     
  14. MercenaryAce

    MercenaryAce Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    This is his archnemsis. Hunting him down seems like a good use of time. And why not? War is about killing the enemy - hunting down isolated enemy units is a common tactic in war.

    Furthermore, one of the Clone Wars comics was all about tracking down a spy, because Grievous' ambushes of Republic fleets were too often and too close together to be random chance.
     
  15. Danzo

    Danzo Jedi Knight star 1

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    Granted he would want to hunt him down but the galaxy is a big place and to see easily happen across him seems highly unlikely. I can agree with what CooperTFN said but what irritates me is that it would take all of a few seconds to explain it away in a brief line such as;

    "Cody get to those younglings before Grievous tracks our escape route."

    Or to use your example from one of the comics;

    "How can he have found us already, I'm starting to think these spy rumours are true."

    Not only would that latter example explain Grievous finding them (to a limit) but it would also set up the possibility of a future storyline that they can play off when brainstorming episodes. If they don't follow up on it, then it's simply a remark Obi made that at least offers something for fans to consider.
     
  16. CooperTFN

    CooperTFN TFN EU Staff Emeritus star 6 VIP

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    But that would defeat the whole point of the battle - Cody needs to not get to the younglings or there's no story.
     
  17. Danzo

    Danzo Jedi Knight star 1

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    Not really. Moments after he told Cody to go to the younglings Grievous turned up. That could still play out the same but with those few seconds of dialogue suggesting a plausible reason as to why Grievous just happened upon them.
     
  18. CooperTFN

    CooperTFN TFN EU Staff Emeritus star 6 VIP

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    Oh, I get it.

    Eh. :p
     
  19. Barriss_Coffee

    Barriss_Coffee Chosen One star 6

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    The OS finally put up its trivia section for the last episode. I got that most of the kids were some specific animal, but Byph was eluding me. Apparently he was a tree. A very specific tree from the background of an episode last season.

    THIS MAKES PERFECT SENSE, TCW. KEEP AT IT.

    [​IMG]
     
  20. Zorrixor

    Zorrixor Force Ghost star 6

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    Having not see any episodes in this series yet, that image leads me to conclude it has jumped the shark.
     
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  21. The_Phantom_Calamari

    The_Phantom_Calamari Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    That's, like, the exact opposite of what that image means. I don't see how you could even express an opinion more contrary to the truth, frankly.

    .....Byph forever, yo.
     
  22. Grand Admiral Paxis

    Grand Admiral Paxis Jedi Master star 3

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    Surely that ship sailed when they brought Darth Maul back.
     
  23. Zorrixor

    Zorrixor Force Ghost star 6

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    His name is Byph?

    [​IMG]
     
  24. MercenaryAce

    MercenaryAce Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    Or when Ashoka jumped over that shark guy in the Dac Arc.
     
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  25. GrandAdmiralJello

    GrandAdmiralJello Comms Admin ❉ Moderator Communitatis Litterarumque star 10 Staff Member Administrator

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    TCW's so weird that jumping the shark would occasionally be an improvement.


    But seriously this last arc was the good kind of zany. The clever kind.