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Lit Clone Wars Continuity Discussion (Spoilers Allowed)

Discussion in 'Literature' started by sabarte, May 12, 2008.

  1. CooperTFN

    CooperTFN TFN EU Staff Emeritus star 6 VIP

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    Also: should Hondo know Dooku is a Sith Lord?
     
  2. CeiranHarmony

    CeiranHarmony Jedi Master star 5

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    red lightsaber... isn't it obvious? and Obi Wan and Anakin said he is one when they were captured, so? everybody knows
     
  3. CooperTFN

    CooperTFN TFN EU Staff Emeritus star 6 VIP

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    I didn't think the general populace knew about it, but if it came up in that Ani/Obi arc, that would explain it.

    On the "thousand generations" thing - given the context, he could just mean he's gone through a thousand rounds of cadets. Even assuming he doesn't go through this personally with every single Jedi, he'd still have at least a few groups per year. I don't think "generation" always needs to mean twenty years.
     
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  4. MercenaryAce

    MercenaryAce Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    Pfft. Where is the fun in that?

    They kicked Vong arse where much newer droids failed.

    That's how Hyperlanes work. Sometimes you have to make a giant detour.

    Good point....especially since in Revival, which takes place after this episode, Anakin and Obi-Wan have to explain what a Sith is to Hondo, and the episode commentary said that was done specifically to show that knowledge of the Sith was generally limited.
     
  5. Zorrixor

    Zorrixor Force Ghost star 6

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    Hondo is obviously more well educated than Bail Organa, so yes.
     
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  6. CooperTFN

    CooperTFN TFN EU Staff Emeritus star 6 VIP

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    :oops:
    In that case, we really do need to look into what happened in the other Dooku/Hondo story. It's possible he heard Ani or Obi call him that, and thus repeated it later, but didn't really understand what it meant.
     
  7. Esg

    Esg Jedi Knight star 4

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    I'd take this show more seriously if it could at least pay attention to it's own continuity
     
  8. blackmyron

    blackmyron Force Ghost star 6

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    Absolutely, Xim's Warbots were constantly in use for 25,000 years and not sitting inert for the vast majority of that time.
     
  9. CeiranHarmony

    CeiranHarmony Jedi Master star 5

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    It is Hondo, of course he knew what it meant, he just played dumb to squeeze more intel out of Kenobi if possible :p
     
  10. Havac

    Havac Former Moderator star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Hondo is good buddies with Cynabar.
     
  11. MercenaryAce

    MercenaryAce Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    Well, if we are willing to ignore the behind the scenes commentary and go by what happened in universe alone, then the obvious solution would be that Hondo knows what a Sith Lord is and just doesn't know Maul is one.
     
  12. HEDGESMFG

    HEDGESMFG Jedi Master star 4

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    Beautiful arc. Honestly far better than what I expected, Hondo (as usual) and Grievous (for once) stole the show. I still am flustered that we don't see him get any jedi kills on screen these days (while Savage knocks them off left and right), but at least he makes a 'reference' to his collection for once. This was also a better duel to watch than even his one against Ventress (as he pretty much lost that even if he won the battle itself).

    Also, I demand to see Huyang in Dawn of the Jedi. He is in fact 'that' old and I have no problem with it at all. As others have suggested, his body may have changed over time, but he'd be a great choice for a cameo. Also a fairly appropriate role for a Doctor Who actor to play if he's 'that' old. I also hope Tennant gets another chance to be in the ST (He is supposedly quite the SW fanboy). It seems like something he'd absolutely relish, and it give him the chance to be something else famous other than 'just' the 10th doctor.

    Here's hoping the next arc is as entertaining, even if it is more droid adventures.
     
  13. Jeff_Ferguson

    Jeff_Ferguson Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Fixed. The Artoo-Threepio capers are the best things the show has ever produced. Throw Robo-doctor Ollivander into the next one and you won't get a complaint out of me.
     
  14. instantdeath

    instantdeath Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    I don't know, I can't get on board the Hondo love train, I'm afraid. He just seems like such a... caricature. He seems like he's meant to fill the "snarky, amoral pirate that sometimes is a decent guy" role, but doesn't really have a very interesting personality or any specific traits to make him notable outside fulfilling a role, similar to Cad Bane. Frankly, most of TCW's original characters have a distinct lack of personality, at least to me. But then again, character has never really been a strong point of Star Wars movies (and TCW, but of course, it's a kids show).

    Of course, my opinion of Hondo is probably influenced by the part of me that will never forgive him for being introduced in what is, in my humble opinion, the worst arc of TCW; the two episode sequence of "Dooku Captured" and "Gungan General". Dooku getting his lightsaber stolen by a monkey lizard and imprisoned, Obi-Wan and Anakin are imprisoned just as easily, and subsequently decide not to arrest Hondo for kidnapping (and likely all of the other bad things pirates do that obviously cannot be shown on a kids television show) because, like, it's the right thing to do. :rolleyes:
     
  15. Super_Battle_Droid

    Super_Battle_Droid Jedi Master star 5

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    Where'd Obi-Wan's lightsaber come from in The Gungan General? He didn't take one with him.
     
  16. mattman8907

    mattman8907 Jedi Master star 4

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    Dawn of the Jedi takes place way before Huyang was even programed. he's only like 1,000 years old. but i would like to see him more as well.
     
  17. CooperTFN

    CooperTFN TFN EU Staff Emeritus star 6 VIP

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    The issue is, he says he's taught Jedi for a thousand generations, which suggests 20-25 thousand years, not one. It's not absolute, but it does seem to be what the episode is suggesting.
     
  18. Zorrixor

    Zorrixor Force Ghost star 6

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    Pfft. The droid lies.

    I mean, seriously, its creator made it look like a Sith. He was obviously up to something. Do. Not. Trust.
     
  19. CooperTFN

    CooperTFN TFN EU Staff Emeritus star 6 VIP

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    Which is an even better argument for him being that old. :p
     
  20. MercenaryAce

    MercenaryAce Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    In all fairness, one line says generations, every other says a thousand years. Can be a slip up or something.
     
  21. Tzizvvt78

    Tzizvvt78 Jedi Master star 5

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    His profile says this:
    "Huyang loyally served the Jedi Order from its earliest days. All Jedi who wielded a lightsaber came into contact with Huyang near the start of their training."
     
  22. blackmyron

    blackmyron Force Ghost star 6

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    It also says that he oversaw lightsaber construction for "centuries", not millennia - and that he served on the Crucible for "over a thousand years", a ship that dates from "the Old Republic" - considering how the CWAS views the current Republic being only a 1000 years old, it could easily being referring to the Jedi Order being the same. Certainly the other parts of the entry support that view.
     
  23. CooperTFN

    CooperTFN TFN EU Staff Emeritus star 6 VIP

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    Or he could've spent the first 24 thousand years of his service as a vacuum cleaner.
     
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  24. Todd the Jedi

    Todd the Jedi Mod and Soliloquist of SWTV star 6 Staff Member Manager

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    Or the writers just can't count. :p
     
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  25. Barriss_Coffee

    Barriss_Coffee Chosen One star 6

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    The "thousand generations" debate strikes again!