Lit Clone Wars Continuity Discussion (Spoilers Allowed)

It is Hondo, of course he knew what it meant, he just played dumb to squeeze more intel out of Kenobi if possible

Well, if we are willing to ignore the behind the scenes commentary and go by what happened in universe alone, then the obvious solution would be that Hondo knows what a Sith Lord is and just doesn't know Maul is one.

Beautiful arc. Honestly far better than what I expected, Hondo (as usual) and Grievous (for once) stole the show. I still am flustered that we don't see him get any jedi kills on screen these days (while Savage knocks them off left and right), but at least he makes a 'reference' to his collection for once. This was also a better duel to watch than even his one against Ventress (as he pretty much lost that even if he won the battle itself).

Also, I demand to see Huyang in Dawn of the Jedi. He is in fact 'that' old and I have no problem with it at all. As others have suggested, his body may have changed over time, but he'd be a great choice for a cameo. Also a fairly appropriate role for a Doctor Who actor to play if he's 'that' old. I also hope Tennant gets another chance to be in the ST (He is supposedly quite the SW fanboy). It seems like something he'd absolutely relish, and it give him the chance to be something else famous other than 'just' the 10th doctor.

Here's hoping the next arc is as entertaining, even if it is more droid adventures.

Fixed. The Artoo-Threepio capers are the best things the show has ever produced. Throw Robo-doctor Ollivander into the next one and you won't get a complaint out of me.

I don't know, I can't get on board the Hondo love train, I'm afraid. He just seems like such a... caricature. He seems like he's meant to fill the "snarky, amoral pirate that sometimes is a decent guy" role, but doesn't really have a very interesting personality or any specific traits to make him notable outside fulfilling a role, similar to Cad Bane. Frankly, most of TCW's original characters have a distinct lack of personality, at least to me. But then again, character has never really been a strong point of Star Wars movies (and TCW, but of course, it's a kids show).

Of course, my opinion of Hondo is probably influenced by the part of me that will never forgive him for being introduced in what is, in my humble opinion, the worst arc of TCW; the two episode sequence of "Dooku Captured" and "Gungan General". Dooku getting his lightsaber stolen by a monkey lizard and imprisoned, Obi-Wan and Anakin are imprisoned just as easily, and subsequently decide not to arrest Hondo for kidnapping (and likely all of the other bad things pirates do that obviously cannot be shown on a kids television show) because, like, it's the right thing to do.

Where'd Obi-Wan's lightsaber come from in The Gungan General? He didn't take one with him.

Dawn of the Jedi takes place way before Huyang was even programed. he's only like 1,000 years old. but i would like to see him more as well.

The issue is, he says he's taught Jedi for a thousand generations, which suggests 20-25 thousand years, not one. It's not absolute, but it does seem to be what the episode is suggesting.

Pfft. The droid lies.

I mean, seriously, its creator made it look like a Sith. He was obviously up to something. Do. Not. Trust.

Which is an even better argument for him being that old.

In all fairness, one line says generations, every other says a thousand years. Can be a slip up or something.

His profile says this:
"Huyang loyally served the Jedi Order from its earliest days. All Jedi who wielded a lightsaber came into contact with Huyang near the start of their training."

It also says that he oversaw lightsaber construction for "centuries", not millennia - and that he served on the Crucible for "over a thousand years", a ship that dates from "the Old Republic" - considering how the CWAS views the current Republic being only a 1000 years old, it could easily being referring to the Jedi Order being the same. Certainly the other parts of the entry support that view.

Or he could've spent the first 24 thousand years of his service as a vacuum cleaner.

Or the writers just can't count.

The "thousand generations" debate strikes again!

Well, yes. But I thought that was obvious enough that it didn't need to be mentioned.

Well, they've proven they're not the best with colors (blaster fire color changing depending on who's holding the weapon), and I remember learning colors before counting in pre school

I'll have to see the episode to give a real opinion, but I find the notion of a droid of all things being the first trainer of all Jedi a little... odd (yeah, that word will do for now). I suppose it would be fully capable of teaching Jedi younglings the basics (holding the lightsaber, beginning stances, basic slashing and parrying techniques), but I would think a Jedi would begin learning lightsaber in combat in tandem with the Force at the very earliest stages.

Also: can we assume that Revan trained with Huyang in the lightsaber training montage in KOTOR?

Fixed.

Next they'll take dark side eyes to the next level and tell us Sith are only red because alignment makes humans change colour.

Next arc preview:



I believe that's the rumored "Colonel Gascon."

Also, @Super_Battle_Droid posted this awesome observation in LACWAC (hope you don't mind me reposting it here bro):

The resemblance may be deceptive, but it's uncanny.

Ubbelievably great!!! A miniature species in the GAR in command, on a humansized ship, used to its species advantage alongside droids... AWESOME, I love it. Whenever TCW does DROIDS it rocks so far. they should rename it DROIDS finally and ignore all the boring clone action. then at least we'd get more great episodes.

...........I have no idea if that is sarcasm or not.

I do mean it, no sarcasm. The clone episodes are the less interesting ones to me, I know others love them. But I prefer Mortis, Droids, the Young Jedi Arc and such stuff. Onderon was great too. also Boba and Dathomir.

but the clone centric episodes, well Rookies and their arcs are nice, but aside the technology of Umbara I can't like those episodes. no idea why, maybe Krell killed it for me, but even without him, I think all the other aspects way more interesting than the story of individual clones who A) are dead by the end of the war anyway or soon thereafter and B) I had clone stories that were great already, do not need repetition. Karen Traviss did best clone stories I ever read. And yeah many loath her, I love her writings, not so much Order 66 and her retconning, sure, but the previous books and her style in general are superb. Even her LOTF novels I loved where she got characters spot on.

I won't lie. I loathe the droid centric eps of s4 (though not enough that I'll actually skip them in a marathon, they're just forgettable), and was bored by the one in s3.

But having said that, I was so impressed by how well crafted the Padawan episodes were that I'm actually willing to give them the benefit of the doubt that this story may pull something off. Plus, it may provide...

1. Lots of fleet action
2. Gregor/Republic Commando(es)
3. The supposed artistic weirdness that is the void episodes.

Due to that, while I am not psyched for these episodes, I do imagine I'll be able to sit back and enjoy them. Here's hoping whatever mission these droids accomplish has some notable impact on the war, though.