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Lit Clone Wars Continuity Discussion (Spoilers Allowed)

Discussion in 'Literature' started by sabarte, May 12, 2008.

  1. RC-1991

    RC-1991 Jedi Master star 4

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  2. CooperTFN

    CooperTFN TFN EU Staff Emeritus star 6 VIP

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    *achem*

    "So, what, does that mean there's Latin in Star Wars? Suspension of disbelief, much?"
     
  3. MercenaryAce

    MercenaryAce Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    Unless, of course, they are using the windows.
    [​IMG]
     
  4. RC-1991

    RC-1991 Jedi Master star 4

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    Jello pulled some strings with JSarek when he wrote that article, clearly :p
     
  5. Gorefiend

    Gorefiend Chosen One star 5

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    They also build and use ray guns! Mankind is doomed. [face_plain]
     
  6. GrandAdmiralJello

    GrandAdmiralJello Comms Admin ❉ Moderator Communitatis Litterarumque star 10 Staff Member Administrator

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    Well, you can't pin it entirely on me. :p jSarek did say he had me in mind when he wrote that part of the article, but there's actually a long-standing basis for why it makes perfect sense to match up High Galactic and Latin and though I've persisted on that point over the years, I'm not the only one to have seen it.

    We see Latin in Star Wars all the time -- Imperator-class, anyone? Let's not even get started on the Procurator and Quaestor class ships either. And it's not just the Saxtonites, Stackpole referred to an ISD Imperator in Wedge's Gamble, and a little thing called ROTS introduced the Venator class. These are all Latin words.

    Moreover, there's a lot of pseudo-Latin out there -- Pliada di am Imperium is one of them, but they're everywhere (Dan Wallace used some in the Atlas rather recently, intending it to be High Galactic). Given the similarities between High Galactic and Latin (a prestige language of the Imperial Court and used for formal Republican terms in its secular variation, and used to describe Jedi techniques in its ecclesiastic variation), I decided that High Galactic not only ought to be an analogue of Latin (which I think was always intended, even as far back as Marvel), but it could cover the usage of Latin itself within the GFFA. That's not to say that they're one and the same -- there's a lot of pseudo-Latin that's also High Galactic, and some things (e.g., cho mai) aren't even Latinate in general. It shouldn't be treated as a 1:1 conversion (compare HG fi with Latin filius. for instance) but an analog.

    As an added bonus, we get nice little things like Adumari archaic basic perator resembles both Latin/HG imperator (emperor) and HG pera (father).

    jSarek not only agreed with me and made the similarities canon(for which I am eternally grateful), but he went the added step and explained that the usage of the Latin alphabet in SW is essentially transliterating Basic words into the HG alphabet for prestige purposes. It was a nice touch and one I hadn't thought of.

    P.S. if you haven't read his "The Written Word" article yet, you're seriously missing out -- HG is just one small part of a very excellent article.
     
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  7. Lugija

    Lugija Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Best part of that image? The sound effect.
    BZZANKGK!
     
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  8. GrandAdmiralJello

    GrandAdmiralJello Comms Admin ❉ Moderator Communitatis Litterarumque star 10 Staff Member Administrator

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    I dunno, I rather like the Visas Marr cosplay that the dino is doing. Surely it'll fool everyone into thinking he's a Miraluka.
     
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  9. Todd the Jedi

    Todd the Jedi Mod and Soliloquist of SWTV star 6 Staff Member Manager

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    I saw his post earlier and didn't bother. Wasn't worth my precious internet time. :p
     
  10. GrandAdmiralJello

    GrandAdmiralJello Comms Admin ❉ Moderator Communitatis Litterarumque star 10 Staff Member Administrator

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    Are you running low on internets? That's sad. Everyone, let's help him find some more.
     
  11. MercenaryAce

    MercenaryAce Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    My raptor ninja are on the way to deliver free Internets.
     
  12. AdmiralNick22

    AdmiralNick22 Fleet Admiral of Literature star 6 Staff Member Manager

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    I get my internets from Al Gore. I keep them in a lock box. :p

    --Adm. Nick
     
  13. RC-1991

    RC-1991 Jedi Master star 4

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    I hear that Windows 95 comes with a free trial of the internets!
     
  14. JackG

    JackG Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    The World Wide Web!
     
  15. CaptainPeabody

    CaptainPeabody Jedi Master star 3

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    Dude, I just went down to the gas station and picked up the latest version of AOL. I'm gonna be surfing the Internets waaaaay faster than all of you poor suckers.
     
  16. Lugija

    Lugija Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    BZZANKGK!
     
  17. Cronal

    Cronal Jedi Master star 4

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    [​IMG]
     
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  18. darthcaedus1138

    darthcaedus1138 Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    [​IMG]

    "Everybody wins."
     
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  19. Barriss_Coffee

    Barriss_Coffee Chosen One star 6

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    Hold on! The last time something went through the space-time continuum we ended up with the Glove of Darth Vader........[face_worried]

    *imagines TCW rewritten with GODV art*
     
  20. Zorrixor

    Zorrixor Force Ghost star 6

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    *blinks*

    Are you suggesting the entire Clone Wars continuity omnishambles (shame on you Google spellcheck for not knowing the 2012 Word of the Year [face_shame_on_you]) is nothing but a time-space ripple effect resulting from the translocation of the Glove of Darth Vader? :eek:

    This could even explain all continuity issues past, present and future...

    Maybe it was their plan all along. The joke will be on us when ST turns out to be about saving the continuity timeline from the Glove of Darth Vader! :-B
     
  21. Rogue_Follower

    Rogue_Follower Manager Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    GoDV-style TCW art, eh? We can arrange that...

    This thread is wildly off-topic at this point, so here's a preview of the next episode to help get it back on track. :p



    This will be the 100th episode.
     
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  22. Barriss_Coffee

    Barriss_Coffee Chosen One star 6

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    XJapanRoX, the mastermind behind the outstandingly awesometastic Siren of Dathomir, announced his next motion-webcomic installment earlier today in LACWAC. I'm reposting his message here since it has a lot of EU appeal:

     
  23. XJapanRoX

    XJapanRoX Official Star Wars Artist star 2 VIP

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    Thanks so much for the plug, Barriss! While I'll be the first to admit I'm no writer, I DO love telling visual stories and have a big appreciation for Star Wars continuity. I hope you guys enjoy what I got cookin'!
     
  24. Rogue_Follower

    Rogue_Follower Manager Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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  25. GrandAdmiralJello

    GrandAdmiralJello Comms Admin ❉ Moderator Communitatis Litterarumque star 10 Staff Member Administrator

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    XJapanRoX , oh, so you're Joe Hogan! You did all the cool art for C6 -- the TFN banner, the badge art and all that stuff! Those were fantastic. I'll definitely have to check out your other work, like that webcomic.
     
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