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Lit Clone Wars Continuity Discussion (Spoilers Allowed)

Discussion in 'Literature' started by sabarte, May 12, 2008.

  1. HEDGESMFG

    HEDGESMFG Jedi Master star 4

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    As painful as it is to see Maul beg, I honestly can't really blame him after watching Sids fight like that. Plus it actually 'does' fit with his character when you consider just how deeply abused and broken he was by Sids over time. Sids was everything to him. Yes, there was one point where he wanted to kill him in the EU (in a final test right before being promoted to a Sith Lord), but never before did he actually get to go toe to toe with his master. Sidious stopped the test before they could actually fight. He also wanted to kill him right here and look how that turned out. His overconfidence was quickly abolished by this decimation, and the Sith are indeed cowards in the end.

    Like I said earlier, even after reading the book the fight was more intense than I expected. (The book did not mention maul using the dark saber). Sids moonwalked Savage to death. I couldn't be more impressed with him.

    That and... "There is no mercy" alone is worth a whiney Maul.
     
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  2. Sinrebirth

    Sinrebirth Immortal Mod-King of the EUC, RPF and SWC star 8 Staff Member Manager

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    With Sidious rather clearly playing with them, no surprises.
     
  3. Darth_Garak

    Darth_Garak Jedi Master star 4

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    I actually felt sorry for Maul when he began begging. How much does the book go into detail?
     
  4. AdmiralWesJanson

    AdmiralWesJanson Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    The best part about Maul is not the begging in the end, but the sheer fear you see in his eyes when he says "I sense something, something I've not felt since...master!"
     
  5. CeiranHarmony

    CeiranHarmony Jedi Master star 5

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    I had a dream.... An entire animated series staring Palpatine/Sidious in every episode [face_hypnotized]
     
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  6. Lugija

    Lugija Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Who voiced him? Ian McDiarmid, perhaps? Having him voice Palpatine in the future episodes of TCW would not ease the loss of Ian Abercrombie but would be frikkin' sweet.

    Last night I had a dream where I was at a party and ate with both Sir Ian McKellen and Sir Christopher Lee at the same time. And the food was good. Clearly that was a prophecy from Waru or Daiman.
     
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  7. instantdeath

    instantdeath Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    My belief of a titanic struggle mainly stems from the fact that I don't believe two proud entities such as Waru and Daiman could coexist peacefully; they would seize power, and both attempt to claim credit for creating life and the universe. There can be no peace between them.

    The Gloves origins are mysterious. Some say Daiman ordered it forged in order to defeat Waru. Others say a third player in this war between the deities, Kyle Katarn the First, the only mortal to ever ascend to Godhood, crafted the glove. The only thing we know for certain is that it's common name, "The Glove of Darth Vader", is itself heresy. The Glove is not Vader's. The Glove is power incarnate, power such as Vader has never dreamed of.
     
  8. darthzac14

    darthzac14 Jedi Knight star 3

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    Wait are Korkie and Amis supposed to be retconned into Shysa and Dala?
    And isn't Jason to be writing a Star Wars: The Clone Wars guide to be released this July?
     
  9. Dawud786

    Dawud786 Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    Is it just me or does the blonde girl look like Kristen Bell?
     
  10. jasonfry

    jasonfry VIP star 4 VIP

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    If you're curious, blog post at the official site about the writing of Shadow Conspiracy, and the difference between a book and episodes of a show.
     
  11. Todd the Jedi

    Todd the Jedi Mod and Soliloquist of SWTV star 6 Staff Member Manager

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    Hm, I wonder what that "second half of an Easter egg that’s half-retcon and half-inside joke" is. Too bad I don't have the book.
     
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  12. HEDGESMFG

    HEDGESMFG Jedi Master star 4

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    You did wonderfully with that, Jason. Even for a short young reader novel, I enjoyed your adaptation and read it all non-stop. Your subtle EU references serve to bring the most major discrepancies together and make Mandalore whole again. I only hope we can get the Protectors somewhere in future stories, if not on screen, at least in the backdrop. I know some here will never be fully pleased, but I'm pretty happy with Clone Wars continuity for the long term. I can see things slowly starting to come together. So long as the dating mess gets sorted out in the end.

    Sadly, I don't have time to hunt for the easter egg right now.
     
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  13. The_Phantom_Calamari

    The_Phantom_Calamari Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    It's Owen Lars' long-lost daughter, Veronica. Reunited at last on Tatooine, a starkly stratified society divided between rich Hutt-affiliated crime families and working-class moisture farmers, they roam the Dune Sea solving mysteries and shooting Sith Lords in the head.
     
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  14. GrandAdmiralJello

    GrandAdmiralJello Comms Admin ❉ Moderator Communitatis Litterarumque star 10 Staff Member Administrator

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    So this might be my favorite episode of TCW ever.


    But I'm really not sure why. [face_thinking]
     
  15. AdmiralWesJanson

    AdmiralWesJanson Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    Well, maybe because after the several attempts to rescue Satine, between Bo Katan and the all grown up recruits and Obi-Wan, the good guys lost Satine and only ran away while Sidious took care of things on his own. They renamed that trope? Not cool.
     
  16. GrandAdmiralJello

    GrandAdmiralJello Comms Admin ❉ Moderator Communitatis Litterarumque star 10 Staff Member Administrator

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    No, this episode actually made me decide I liked Bo Katan -- perhaps the first such Mando I've found likable since Candalore. At first I didn't like her, but she seems like she's capable of being tough without falling into that Mara Jade stereotype. That's a good thing.

    Similarly, I quite liked Kenobi. He gave Maul a great verbal smackdown re: the dark side. It was very nice.

    And the music was quite nice. Not just the use of the March (which was way more ominous than usual -- nicely done! Was this the first time it's been used in the show? I remember it in the movie or something, vaguely).
     
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  17. Todd the Jedi

    Todd the Jedi Mod and Soliloquist of SWTV star 6 Staff Member Manager

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    They've used the Imperial March, usually when Anakin does something dark, but I don't think they've used Palpatine's theme before. Wicked badass combination that turned out to be.
     
  18. MercenaryAce

    MercenaryAce Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    Speaking of which:
    This is why I was ok with Maul begging. I kind of like the idea that underneath the bluster, most Sith are really pathetic people.
     
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  19. GrandAdmiralJello

    GrandAdmiralJello Comms Admin ❉ Moderator Communitatis Litterarumque star 10 Staff Member Administrator

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    Well, you know what they say about asking for mercy but being unable to give it. It's almost a convention among villains, but it's rather true in case of Sith. The whole steadfast elevation of self above everything makes them completely unable to die for what they believe in -- because they believe in nothing save themselves.

    Vizla, for all his murderous monstrosities, had a cause. Maul doesn't.
     
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  20. Esg

    Esg Jedi Knight star 4

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    Dooku didn't beg tough.
     
  21. HEDGESMFG

    HEDGESMFG Jedi Master star 4

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    Not verbally. Dooku was, if anything, too shocked to outright beg. He was terrified and effectively went out like a punk. He NEVER expected Sidious to just throw him out like that, and only in the end did he realize what he got himself into. So says both the ep III novelization AND Christopher Lee's facial reactions.
     
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  22. RC-1991

    RC-1991 Jedi Master star 4

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    FWIW, Dooku does start to beg in the novelization. Though he starts begging Palpatine, rather than Anakin.
     
  23. MercenaryAce

    MercenaryAce Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    Actually, I never heard that one.

    Perhaps there is some small part of him that was still a jedi?
     
  24. Ulicus

    Ulicus Lapsed Moderator star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    I have! :D

    Man, we need to get Cullen and Welker involved in TCW.
     
  25. Dawud786

    Dawud786 Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    That movie broke this little 6 year old's heart.....