Clone Wars on Wookieepedia

Anybody here know why the Clone Wars tv show related material is counted as Legends on the Wook? Is this some form of rebellion on the part of the editors or just a strange oversight?

 

It could because some content is valid in both.

 

Editor Rebellion or Editor Separatist??? Very interesting.

 

Before something happens to this thread whaaaaaat.

 

Basically from what I understand the only thing about TCW that is considered canon is the tv show. All novels and comics related to it are legends.

 

This is true except for SOD.

 

Yep that is true. Son of Dathomir was the first. Everything that came after it is considered canon and everything that came before it is considered legends accept for the movies and the TCW tv show.

 

Wookieepedia includes TCW episodes in both Canon and Legends articles. While this is a deviation from the way they are officially handled by Lucasfilm, we do this because a lot of Legends material is based on or refers to stuff that happened on TV, and excluding TCW TV material from Legends articles would require heavy rewriting of many articles and make it difficult to write Legends articles without them becoming disjointed.

Many subjects from TCW currently have only a Legends article and no Canon article; this is simply because no one has bothered to create the Canon article yet. Many established editors are not doing work on Canon stuff out of a lack of interest (and because we cannot force anyone to do so), so we only have a small number of editors actively working on improving our coverage of Canon subjects. It is not a simple matter of changing the tag from Legends to Canon; instead, the Legends articles must be kept as-is, and a new Canon article must be written from scratch alongside it. This is because most Legends TCW articles contain other information not from TV that is truly Legends (i.e. now non-canon), and because copying and pasting from the Legends article into the Canon article is not permitted due to attribution and professionalism concerns. Eventually, we will get these subjects a proper Canon article, but as we are all volunteers, it takes time.

EDIT: Also, back in May, the community decided that in order to prevent a flood of unidentified character articles, canon subjects who were only named in Legends sources will not receive Canon articles unless and until they are named in a canon source. So if your favorite character got his or her name from a Legends source (novel, comic, reference book, etc.) and that name was never used on TV, he or she will not get a Canon article until he or she receives a name in a canon source. This mainly affects the movies (e.g. the cantina scene, Jabba's palace, etc.), but may affect some TCW characters as well.

 

Oh no so there is a Wookieepedia rebellion going on as well. At least you guys aren't spamming message boards though.

 

Intresting but they will eventually have to work on the canon Articles because there are going to be no more legends.

 

Chances are some of them will quit helping out just like several of the EU fans who refuse to acknowledge the new canon will likely one day leave Star Wars behind. New editors will probably come in who enjoy the NEU.

 

This is basically the answer I was looking for. Thanks for the reply! I was just curious about the whole thing and your post was very helpful.

 

There's not a rebellion, per se, just people that don't want to actively do major work on Canon articles. Most are willing to do minor maintenance work on them, but it has always been the case on Wookieepedia that most editors only do major content work in their personal area of interest, and for most editors, that area of interest is a small, specific part of the EU (e.g. for me it's the Jedi Apprentice books). There has always been a dearth of editors willing to work on movie subjects and major TCW subjects, due to the large amount of adaptations, tie-in, and behind-the-scenes material that must be checked to make those articles comprehensive. Since those two areas are the primary components of NuCanon, it's no surprise that the number of editors now working on Canon articles is rather low, simply because people aren't interested in working on those subjects at all. Many of the major film characters' articles have been sitting in horrible shape with multiple cleanup banners for years because no one wanted to work on them; the current situation with few editors working on Canon is simply an extension of that indifference.

However, there remain tens of thousands of Legends articles with room for major improvements, and so people will simply continue working on what fancies them. Wookieepedia will never be complete; forty years from now, people will probably still be working on improving Legends content. And yes, new editors will come in with their own areas of interest, which may very well be NuCanon. In fact, by and large, most of the editors currently doing active work on Canon articles are newer editors. The deeper we get into the NuCanon era, the more editors willing to work on Canon articles there will be. NuCanon will eventually have coverage as broad as Legends, and I foresee that sooner rather than later.

No problem. Glad I could be of help.

 

Wookiepedia has a canon section at the top of the page, just click on it.

 

When the Canon page exists. It's important to remember that the Legends version of a page and the Canon version of a page are, technically speaking, totally separate articles with different page ID numbers in the underlying database. They are not stored together. Only if both pages exist and have been manually connected to each other (if necessary; in the case of both pages having the same title, this is done automagically) will the "CANON" and "LEGENDS" tabs appear. But assuming that is the case, then yes, you can switch between the two pages via those tabs.

 

It's a real shame more people don't work on the canon pages. I'd do it I could coherently add info without it looking like a mess.

 

If you want to help out but aren't sure how, feel free to ask for assistance. Sometimes we can seem intimidating to newcomers, but if you're polite, most of us will usually be willing to provide guidance. You can ask a question about how to do something in the Senate Hall forum, or approach someone directly on their user talk page. Brandon Rhea is probably one of the better people to ask for assistance regarding Canon articles, as he was one of the first to start working in that area. Also try studying similar articles, especially those that have achieved Featured or Good Article status (denoted by a star or checkmark in the upper right corner of the article), to see how they are written. A lot can be learned by observation.

(By the way, this reply goes to anyone thinking about contributing on Wookieepedia, not just Doop. )

 

Thanks! I'll check that stuff out.

 

Cause it's not canon anymore

 

The timeline of all TCW episodes has not been fully placed into the official timeline. Certain events have no confirmed date. Yet (that's what I recall reading)

 

The old Genndy Tartakovsky Clone Wars micro-series is indeed non-canon. However, TCW episodes are fully canon.

Correct, we do not have confirmed dates for everything yet. We have the canonical order of episodes, but not necessarily dates for all episodes. With regard to Legends, we also have no timeline reconciliation whatsoever between TCW and earlier Clone Wars-related material.