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ST Colin Trevorrow NOT directing Episode IX

Discussion in 'Sequel Trilogy' started by starocean90, Aug 15, 2015.

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  1. dogprivilege

    dogprivilege Jedi Master star 4

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    I tend to lean on the side that says Trevorrow simply isn't really a good writer, and that Carrie's passing presented a challenge that imo writers who have been brought on to write a star wars movie probably should be able to meet. It's not to understate Leia's importance, but I think it's Trevorrow's writing that was the bigger problem, and it was probably highlighted by Carrie's death.

    Part of me wonders though if that Trevorrow's Leia-centric vision for the story was compelling in and of itself because Leia is relatively unexplored compared to most other principal characters in the saga. I bet any approach that put Leia front and center (like Han in TFA) would feel fresh, and was the key element that made Trevorrow's story stand out. Without that silver bullet, he wasn't able to come up with anything as compelling, whereas I imagine talented writers would.
     
  2. Jedi Jessy

    Jedi Jessy Force Ghost star 5

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    Yes, this dude is around since 2015.

    "While production won’t begin for a few years, Trevorrow is heading to Lucasfilm this year to begin working with artists and his fellow Star Wars directors." AUGUST 15, 2015
     
  3. nightangel

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  4. Qui-Riv-Brid

    Qui-Riv-Brid Force Ghost star 5

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    This doesn't work though as if true then KK knew all about that in intimate detail through her husband and Spielberg... and still hired him.
     
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  5. nightangel

    nightangel Force Ghost star 6

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    as said, Spielberg still stood behind him in JW, so....maybe KK realized it too late. [face_dunno]
     
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  6. Xael

    Xael Jedi Master star 3

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    If the report is to be believed, JWs success was the one that made him unbearable, so neither her husband or Spilberg would have known
     
  7. Jedi Jessy

    Jedi Jessy Force Ghost star 5

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    I would have believed if Colin was the first "sources said that he is impossible to work" but just this year we already saw the same rumors to Han Solo's directors. 3 directors that just now LF found out that they are difficult to work with?
     
  8. nightangel

    nightangel Force Ghost star 6

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    It is even something I faced a lot at job and in private life with people who change their personality completely after getting some success. They treated me then like someone inferior. In the beginning I was a lot hurt by such behavior, but got used to it over the years. [face_sigh]
     
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  9. Qui-Riv-Brid

    Qui-Riv-Brid Force Ghost star 5

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    So he just barely bearable on JW then:

    https://www.themarysue.com/trevorrow-star-wars-ix-firing-reason/

    According to a source who spoke to Vulture, Trevorrow was equally as impressed with his own sudden success as everyone else. A “a ranking Hollywood movie insider with direct knowledge of the productions” of Trevorrow’s Jurassic World, as well as followup The Book of Henry, explained that Trevorrow had been very forceful about his own opinions on Jurassic World. When that was a success, it only made him double down on self-confidence for Book of Henry, and we all saw how that turned out.

    So again Book of Henry was shot after JW came out and he was already hired for IX and was totally unbearable already two years ago.
     
  10. Xael

    Xael Jedi Master star 3

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    Maybe for KK it was still bearable. We dont know at what exact moment he became too much (again, if the report is true). Maybe he is good at giving a really good impression at the beginning, but after a bit it became clear he wasn't going to play ball. And after the whole Lord and Miller thing, she was even more hesitant to pull the plug.

    Also when you're in the inside, it's not always easy to notice these things. If CW is close to her husband and Spilberg, it would have made it hard.
     
  11. Gigoran Monk

    Gigoran Monk Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    Lol. I think there's absolutely no way that CT and Mr. Monster Truck's initial script was "inspired."

    In early stages of production, his unbearability was probably not fully apparent as the focus was still on TFA, RO and TLJ. Colin probably just wasn't interacting very much with KK, who was dealing with JJ, Edwards and Rian. So it makes perfect sense that as the attention turns to Colin on the eve of TLJ's release, that CT's interactions with KK would increase, and she would realize what a twit he is. After seeing his terrible script, she tried to correct with a change of writers. CT wasn't having it, they clashed, and he walked/ was fired.
     
  12. jamminjedi23

    jamminjedi23 Jedi Master star 5

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    I believe it just comes down to the fact that Lucasfilm and KK will give directors the freedom to be creative as long as they like what they are doing. As soon as they stop liking what they are doing they will begin reeling the filmmakers in and their freedom to be creative will start to disappear. It's like that in the real world as well. Many employers will be hands off as long as their employees are doing a good job. Once they stop doing a good job they will begin to be managed a lot more and that is when heads start butting.
     
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  13. Krueger

    Krueger Chosen One star 5

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    His apparent forcefulness really does come through in interviews. I think he comes across as a bit of a bully, actually. Whereas Rian Johnson and Gareth Edwards couldn't be further away in the other direction. I can't comment on Lord and Miller, because I've never read or seen any interviews with them.

    As others have said, as well, I genuinely believe a lot of this comes down to KK wanting to keep the SW brand intact. She has a mountain on her shoulders and she doesn’t want to waver at all. I think freedom is allowed, as long as she herself likes it and as long as its SW, through and through.
     
  14. I Are The Internets

    I Are The Internets Shelf of Shame Host star 9 VIP - Game Host

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    Well maybe he and Josh Trank can team up to make Chronicle 2 Henry: The 4antastic Book of Instructions Not Included
     
  15. jaqen

    jaqen Chosen One star 5

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    Lot of conjecture being passed off like facts in here.

    And an incredible amount of vitriol toward CT. As if it were personal. Odd.
     
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  16. jedijax

    jedijax Force Ghost star 6

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    I agree. That's kind of why I posted what I did about how KK may not have felt that Colin did or could write something that kept up with the emotional fabric of the situation. I think some of the hatred toward Colin may be "fake news" spread by tabloids that had bad feelings (possibly stemming from comments and BOH).
     
  17. Nipuhanipera

    Nipuhanipera Force Ghost star 5

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    Safety Not Guaranteed, Trevorrow's first film.
     
  18. Jedi Jessy

    Jedi Jessy Force Ghost star 5

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    And the same reaction (in the media especially) to Lord and Miller.
     
  19. jedijax

    jedijax Force Ghost star 6

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    But DAMN that one move can end a director's career cold. Lord, Miller, Trank, and Trevorrow may be done for at least a LONG time!
     
  20. Jozgar

    Jozgar Jedi Master star 3

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    Lord and Miller have a good enough track record that they'll still find work. And Trank's career wasn't killed by losing he SW directing job, it was killed by his apparent crack addiction and otherwise erratic behavior on the production of Fant4stic.
     
  21. gezvader28

    gezvader28 Chosen One star 6

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    you gotta wonder if all these sackings will put directors off tho , they're a relatively small community , will they think 'what's the point of wasting 2 years of your life ?'
     
  22. I Are The Internets

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    Or all of these directors form a club where they play mean pranks on other prominent SW directors.
     
  23. MadBoomBoom

    MadBoomBoom Jedi Knight star 1

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    Please No JJ abrams
     
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  24. KissMeImARebel

    KissMeImARebel Force Ghost star 5

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    Yeah I was actually surprised by the sources in the Vulture article: they seemed pretty malicious and egotistical themselves. I don't recall Lord and Miller getting this sort of treatment from "insiders" -- and you'd think a situation where the directors are fired in the middle of principle photography would have plenty of anger and blame to go around. If KK didn't send out attack dog insiders to go after L&M, I don't think she'd do it on CT. This seems more like egos hitting egos and personal grudges.
     
  25. Dark Ferus

    Dark Ferus Chosen One star 8

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    I'd like for Abrams or Johnson to do IX, but I'm open to most new director, possibly even a woman. I really wish George Lucas would do it, but its a long shot now.
     
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