Amph Come with me if you want to live: The Terminator Thread

He was.

 

I was just about to say that, but Diggy ninja'd me.

I really don't want a bunch of old 101 models running around or even young CGI 101 models. It's going to be like minions.

 

mind or want? It will make a big difference

 

Yeah, just edited to say "want."

 

I know, I'm talking about back in the day. They have a good working relationship, so he would want to be involved with him on a Terminator project.

That's kinda the point. The in-universe reason for multiple 101 models, was to ensure that should one be destroyed there would be a back-up. It'd be the same way if the 102 model were introduced. The same would have happened in TSCC with Cameron and Cromartie.

 

Sith_Sensei__Prime it's all yours.

 

Arnold is definitely going to be in it, and probably have a significant role, way moreso than a cameo. Especially now that Cameron is involved. That will be a thing. Ain't no way Cameron is going to work on a Terminator flick and not have Arnold in it. The trick is what/how they're going to do with Arnold. I would flat-out love to see him as the bad guy again, the remorseless, unstoppable killing machine. The closest we got was a moment in Salvation (and the switch flipping in Rise of the Machines). Although I think the young CGI Arnold trickery has been well done but it's been 2 movies in a row with that. And I thought Genisys had a simple, unique solution to it, the model was sent back to the 70s, he got old (and then they jumped 20 years so older). There's an episode of Sarah Connor Chronicles where a Terminator was literally sealed behind a wall for a decades because it was sent back too early, do something like that. Now on SCC that aforementioned buried behind a wall Terminator didn't age but I think Genisys' sidestepping it by saying yes the human stuff does age kind of works better, it makes the Terminator's more "human", which is ultimately a big theme of the series. Anyway, yes, old Arnold, as the Terminator, hopefully the bad guy. Less rock 'em sock 'em robots and more tech noir horror stuff please.

 

Genisys was too on the nose with it, which made it ham-fisted. And now that Genisys has already done it, that approach is tainted.

 

I'm totally okay if Cameron takes the "Skynet is an app" approach that Genisys did (and sort of in Rise of the Machines where Skynet was basically malaware) because I think he's going to do it better. good to see Cameron once again restate the notion that a lot of subsequent Terminator movies don't push is how the humans are turning into machines as well. It was always kind of subtext in everything but I could see Cameron pushing it to the forefront.

 

Also, just spitballing, the possible Tim Miller / James Cameron Terminator movie didn't mention any writers. Also of note one of the writers that James Cameron worked with on the Avatar sequels for years is Josh Friedman, he of Sarah Connor Chronicles showrunning. Hopefully at some point they chatted Terminator.

 

More Terminator films announced by years end - http://www.aintitcool.com/node/77473

 

If Ellison is talking about a deal with James Cameron, I am absolutely on freakin' board. That's the only interpretation I can parse out of him saying "where fans wanted the franchise to go since T2"

 

Arnold sez it isn't done and even invokes the holy name of J.C. (Jesus Christ, John Connor, James Cameron, any and all of the above. Same guy, really. But, in this case, it was the third one.)

https://www.fandango.com/movie-news...e-is-not-done-making-terminator-movies-752107

"Just because Paramount doesn't want to pick up the Terminator franchise, you have 15 other studios willing to do it -- that doesn't mean the Terminator franchise is finished, right? It just means they are on their way to negotiate with another studio, but I can't give you the details of that. They'll announce that. But, yes, the Terminator franchise is never finished. And remember that after 2018, James Cameron is getting it back, and then it will continue on!"

 

'sup?

http://io9.gizmodo.com/the-next-terminator-movie-will-be-produced-by-james-cam-1795400586

James Cameron, Tim Miller, and Ah-nuld... on Terminator... the mind boggles...

 

Does not fill me with confidence. Any sequel would necessarily have to pick up where Genisys left off, or at least address its events somehow. I would rather they just reboot it at this point. Frankly, the story of an AI taking over is not even that compelling anymore. Since the first two Terminator flicks, we've had the Matrix trilogy, I Robot, Oblivion, Ex Machina and I'm sure plenty others I can't think of right now. While the idea of robots taking over wasn't exactly revolutionary even then, it has become so pervasive these days that it's a tired trope. I hope that what they're making is a final chapter that will give this franchise its much needed conclusion, and finally put it out of its misery.

 

I would argue that T4 (Salvation) did pick up where T3 left off. Kate Connor was a character from T3 that we never saw or knew from T2 or saw again in T5.

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Well, Arnold's old age can't be concealed, so that's another reason why I think they will have to tie into Genisys to explain it. If not, they'll have to make an original story that once again uses the same conceit (that he has for some reason been active so long that his organic cover has aged), which will feel kind of rehashed. Or, I suppose it's possible he can be a human character who is the original template for the model 101.

 

Honestly at this stage I think if more Terminator needs to be made then do it as a reboot, everything just seems so weighed down(and overly dependant on) the franchises mythos now. Beyond that the only thing I'd really like to see at this stage is a proper Jon Conor resistance story up to the destruction of Skynet.

 

I agree. I want any new movie(s) to be aimed toward an ending. When will these people finally win? Three decades this franchise has been running. It's time to bring it home.