Amph Come with me if you want to live: The Terminator Thread

Taken from an editing perspective, it's a logical arrangement of the pieces we've seen (and, since they've only started shooting relatively recently, it would make sense that the majority of the footage they have available to use in the trailer only comes from 2 or 3 sequences at most).

 

His last name is Kickinger, and is an Arnold clone? Acceptable.

 

All the news from the comic-con panel is sounding pretty solid- most especially the film being dedicated to Stan Winston and Stan himself getting a cameo in the film. That's awesomely appropriate.

More details in this AICN article, but some highlights:

-McG has spoken to both Cameron and Arnold about the film.

-Set 10 years before the T-800, showing the earlier phase of the war

-Sam Worthington: ?We?re making a gritty and real terminator. It?s not for pansies. We?re making the terminator, you know?? ?I?m trying to protect the mythology of the first two movies. I wouldn?t have signed on if they hadn?t. I love Jim?s films and Jim himself.?

-Skynet robots are supposedly "designed like Scott?s and Cameron?s Aliens universe"

-Approaching it like Nolan did Batman Begins. In fact, Jonathan Nolan is has a writing credit on the film.

-T-600s are compared to the original Macs, as opposed to the more familiar endoskeletons being like the Macbook Air. The 600's are supposed to be big, bulky and weather. They used soviet tanks as an inspiration.

-Bryce is Kate Connor



And description of the footage screened:

The footage played very light? in that the aesthetic isn?t dark like in the flashbacks. This takes place a full 10 years before what we glimpse in T1 and T2 and the machines are in their early stages.

The first shot was a high shot, looking down at a crashed chopper, with Bale lying on the ground. He sits up, sees the T-600 crushed under the chopper (we later see him aim his gun down, like the still that was released, and put a single bullet in the head as the lights go out in its eyes) and try to raise someone on a CB. He gets someone and is asked ?How many survivors?? ?One,? he responds. ?Repeat?? Then he says it sharper, louder: ?One!?

He steps over a dead endoskeleton and walks into the deserty sunset.

We?re introduced to Worthington, who seems like a good guy, but there?s a later scene with him chained up and Bale looking him in the eye saying ?You killed my father, you tried to kill my mother and you?re not going to kill me.? Maybe I?m not up on what?s current with the flick, but is Worthington a terminator?

Worthington sees a human shape in what looks like a broken down garden and calls out. It, of course, is a T-600 and shoots at him with machine guns attached underneath its arms. Worthington is tackled before he?s hit and Anton Yelchin sits up and says, ?Come with me if you want to live,? with a smile.

By the way, there was a couple of interesting glimpses: One, a shadowed T-600 overlooking a pen filled with humans, like a concentration camp and the other was a closer look at a T-600 with his face looking skull-like... not metal endo-skeleton skull, but human skull... kinda like the original Giger alien. Maybe that was a trick of the light, but something was different... maybe it was just some of the "fake rubbery skin" that the early Terminators are supposed to have that I'm mistaking for a skull.

Then we got a lot of Road Warrior-ish chase scenes through a desert landscape, broken down cars? being chased by something we don?t see. The truck the humans use is a reinforced tow truck.

There?s a voice-over from, I assume, Bryce Dallas Howard, where she says ?If you saved us once in another future you can save us in this one.?

One of the last shots was John Conner pinned to the ground, a close up as he screams out ?YOU SON OF A BITCH!? and a Terminator hand comes into frame, looking like it?s going to touch his cheek. They cut to profile as it drags down his face as he screams. Is this the origin of the scar?

 

Arnold May Be Involved in Salvation

Apparently, the rumor is that Kickinger will play the T-800 role, but they'll digitally map Arnold's face over his (ala stuntwork in Jurassic Park, Titanic, AOTC & ROTS) and ADR Arnold's voice in later.

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It has been done pretty effectively- so long as they avoid the "Big Headed Dooku" syndrome that were in a couple shots in AOTC. If they can do it for an old man dueling, i think they can do it for a character that's mostly walking or appearing stoic or quietly menacing.

 

Supposedly that pic is evidence that Arnold has made set visits to provide ADR keys. Even if not the case, since his face will be digital, I don't see how synching the audio will be any trouble.