Common complaints w/ EP2, how is romance ever NOT considered cheezy or corny?

I've asked this over a dozen times in here, yet no one has the knows of a romance in a movie that is NOT cheezy and never has cheezy dialogue.
Why? Because real romances are like that! Some will say they ar not. Yet again no one will be able to give me an example of a romance that does not have lines that could be considered cheezy. This complaint I am totally sick of! Romance always has a mush factor. Look back your own romances, didn't you shoot the breeze and say some corny stuff? I sure did, so did my galpal. I think you're in denial if you say otherwise.

 

Yeah, you have a point, but when there's frolicking in the fields, its time to start killing things.....

 

Actually, I thought the rolling in the grass was a sweet scene. I'm happy it wasn't cut. I don't let my "I hate mushy romance" masculine ego get in the way.

 

No, its just that I wish they would have done something other then the cliched picnic. The dinner scene looks cool. I actually like the way the relationship develops AFTER this scene. It starts to get serious.

And I know they're young and in love..blah blah. So am I. And if I ever roll around in the fields with my girlfriend, I'll gladly take the cyanide pill.

 

Example: "Before Sunrise" directed by Richard Linklater, 1995.

 

I see nothing wrong with some playful frollicking. Plus the field made for a beautiful visual.

 

AOTC will probably never be remembered as one of the great romantic movies of all time.

I suppose the romance in AOTC is contrived (though I haven't seen the movie). But ANH and TPM had no romance.

Neither did FOTR, for that matter. Or any of the Star Trek movies.

But that's beside the point.

I think the romance would've come over better if Lucas and company didn't tout the romantic aspect of the movie as being something incredible.

I think the romance in this movie works. By Star Wars standards.

And that is not a criticism.

 

I refuse to believe that a public that made Titanic the #1 movie of all time will find the romance in AOTC contrived.

 

If you want to see a romantic movie see A Walk to Remember... I was sitting in the threatre praying Lucas would use similar dialogue. Well, frankly it's nothing I quite want to see. BUT I WILL KEEP AN OPEN MIND. I'm in it for the Star Wars, not the love.

Again just keep an open mind, and keep in mind, that it's pretty essential to the plot.

 

High Fidelity

 

A Walk to Remember? I'm sorry, but I got drug to that by my girlfriend, and that is one of the worst movies I've ever seen. Nicholas Sparks (the author of the book which the film is based on) has got to be one of the most predictable writers on the planet. Someone dies at the end of almost all his books. The dialogue is that movie is so awful it makes Titanic look Oscar-worthy (oh wait...)

I agree with Padme Bra, if Titanic can be considered great with its absolutely vomit inducing love story and dialogue, so can AOTC's cheesy love story.

 

It was so vomit-inducing that it made close to $2 billion worldwide. But I suppose it means nothing that lots of teen-aged girls enjoyed "Titanic".

 

Now I'm confused. JP-30 says that the Shaak's and the "meadow frolick" is in there, but other reviews say it's not...

 

if its believable, it isn't cheesy.

simple as that.

I personally want to see an unbelievable love scene. Natalie can't have Hayden! He's MINE, dang it.

M-I-N-E.

 

I think the term 'teenager' is the problem some are having.

Portman and Hayden are much younger than Harrison and Carrie were in ESB, so I think there is this feeling some may get that its a typical teenage romp or something. I have never heard anyone say that the Han and Leia romance was cheesy.

 

High Fedility (however you spell the piece of rubbish)!

That movie was the worst "love" story ever. For that matter, what "love"? There was none, it was about this looser who wanted to be around beautiful woman and have sex with them. There was no "love". Love is compassion, trust, and sometimes passion (not the sexual kind you see in Latin movies). Love is not blind, it sees very well, and when two people like eachother and want to "do it" and are NOT married, it is called lust and sin. When they are married, its considered a bad marriage. But when two people have compassion for eachother, trust eachother, like eachother, and then comes the "want to do it" to eachother, and they're married. Then its a true love story. No more crap about adulters and sex adicts.

That's all.

 

The other amusing complaint I've heard is that they fall in love too fast and it's not believable. Uhhh, yeah, good point. Name me one other movie where two people WEREN'T in love at the beginning, but WERE in love by the end.

 

Come on people. You know that all the complaints about the romance are around because the rest of the movie ROCKS so much.

Titanic had one of the silliest love stories in the history of film and yet people LOVED it.

Also, which is it? Can Hayden act or can he not act? It seems that one review says "Hayden can really act" and then the next says "Hayden cannot act."

WHICH IS IT?

Also, if TPM sucked so much then why did it make so much money? Even I have to admit that the Matrix did not suck... I just didn't love it like many others. Why can't some people just accept that their view of a movie isn't the end all judgement about its worth to society?

RB

 

hayden can act, but you all know who he loves

NO, not natalie!

 

"Uhhh, yeah, good point. Name me one other movie where two people WEREN'T in love at the beginning, but WERE in love by the end."

? Err...Titanic, You've Got Mail, Sleepless in Seattle, Star Wars, Spider-Man, Moulin Rouge...did you mean something else?

I hope he isn't cc, as Natalie is mine

 

Example: "Before Sunrise" directed by Richard Linklater, 1995.

Denied for cheezy dialogue and events. Great flick, though.

High Fedility (however you spell the piece of rubbish)!

Ditto. I could watch both of these flicks over and over again.

Chasing Amy, silly dialogue and awkward ending. Annie Hall, dopey dialogue and characterization. Any Nora Ephron movie. All are corny.

 

High Fedility (however you spell the piece of rubbish)!

Ditto. I could watch both of these flicks over and over again.


If it;s rubbish, why watch it over and over? That doesn't make sense. ANd I reject your denial. Compared to some AOTC dialogue and something like Titanic, it isn;t cheesy whatsoever.

 

you better have some STRONG force powers, darth iggy, or there's no way she'll fall for your lightning scheme

...although luke went down pretty fast, lol

 

Cliched picnic scene?!!

I haven't seen a movie in years, maybe not even one in the last decade that had a picnic scene.

Cliched, my butt!

 

I don't know what you people think. But the only movie that even dares to challenge Star Wars movies is the Matrix. It is by FAR in the top 10 of the greatest sci-fi movies of ALL time. Along with Star Wars, Aliens, Preditor movies, and others.

The small "love" story in the Matrix was corny, but I thought they actually did fall in what Hollywood considers "love", it was realistic.