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Discussion in 'Star Wars: Episode VII and Beyond (Archive)' started by sonofvaderhater7, Apr 8, 2013.

  1. The Hellhammer

    The Hellhammer Manager Emeritus star 5 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    The title of the thread pretty much gave this away as a) fake bombastic news b) real irrelevant tidbit.

    So...yeah. Cool, I guess.
     
  2. Frank_TJ_Mackey

    Frank_TJ_Mackey Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    It's not mindblowing, but it's interesting nonetheless.

    It seems that J.J. is already meeting people and those key contributors are already "blocking" schedules for Episode 7.

    It would then mean that casting would start this summer....with shooting starting next spring (my 2 cents).

    It's no biggie...but at least we know that talks are far much advanced than we "officially" know.
     
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  3. TCF-1138

    TCF-1138 Porg of New Films & Fan Films star 5 Staff Member Manager

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    :rolleyes:

    You guys are acting as if the editor of the film is totally irrelevant. Let me tell you, he/she is not.
    Editors have one of the most important jobs on a film (really second only to the writer and the director) in terms of the telling of the story.
    I suggest you all go and read Walter Murch's book "In the Blink of an Eye" to get a better understanding of the editor's importance.

    This IS interesting news!
     
  4. spicer

    spicer Jedi Master star 4

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    As long as they don't get the editor of Prometheus we're good.
     
  5. I Are The Internets

    I Are The Internets Force Ghost star 8

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    They should get the editor for The New York Times.

    Oh wait...
     
  6. rezpen

    rezpen Jedi Master star 4

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    I hope these guys are rewatching the films to make sure they understand what makes Star Wars different, I was not too impressed with the disorienting filming and editing style of the Star Trek reboot, cameras at strange angles for no reason, shaky hand held shots again and again, endless shots of swooping through corridors and spinning around bridges, the flashing lights and other visual noise. My fingers are really crossed these guys don't bring that style to Star Wars.
     
  7. Krueger

    Krueger Chosen One star 5

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    It’s funny how they've announced this now, taking into account that the editor is pretty much the last person(s) to work on a film. In fact, they're probably still working on a film a couple of months before its release.
     
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  8. Pfluegermeister

    Pfluegermeister Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Believe me, it wasn't the editing that was the problem with that film. The Hobbit, on the other hand... ;)
     
  9. fishtailsam

    fishtailsam Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    That's the next movie I'm getting from Netflix. I'm excited.
     
  10. Pfluegermeister

    Pfluegermeister Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Yes, indeed, just to play devil's advocate here, I'd have to agree that the editors ARE important. A film can be radically changed by the editing process; some have made the argument (with some validity) that the original Star Wars film was actually SAVED in editing. It's not so much a question of camera-shaking and such, like rexpen was mentioning, because that's more the cinematographer's job than the editors'. It's a question of making the scenes play to their maximum emotional potential, such as making a fast scene faster-paced (y'know, faster and more intense and all that jazz!). So, yes, this is important news. Important enough to merit its own thread? Maybe not. What's most likely needed is a gradually-growing permanent thread entitled "Episode VII: Cast and Crew" or some such. Consolidation is always best in this forum.
     
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  11. Pfluegermeister

    Pfluegermeister Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    You'll probably like it. An imperfect film, to be sure, but one good enough that its imperfections didn't ruin the overall experience. There's plenty to like in the film, on the whole.
     
  12. sonofvaderhater7

    sonofvaderhater7 Jedi Youngling

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    It was very tongue in cheek for sure you guys responses are exactly what I was hoping for had me rolling at points.....the ewoks of news lol!
     
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  13. rezpen

    rezpen Jedi Master star 4

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    Here is a pretty good illustration of what I am talking about, where the scene is almost over edited with cut after cut after cut for not a particularly good reason. Combined with the hectic camerawork what you are left with is a disorienting needlessly confusing mush of images.



    Compare this to the clear action and classic editing technique in a similar scene starting around :40 in ROTS. In SW action sequences are often built around a single strong iconic image (which usually begins as a concept painting).

    http://www.starwars.com/watch/episode_3_chasing_grievous.html
     
  14. kubricklynch

    kubricklynch Jedi Knight star 3

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    Yeah, editing like that belongs nowhere near a SW film.
     
  15. Darkslayer

    Darkslayer Force Ghost star 6

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    But I loved the Hobbit!
     
  16. Pfluegermeister

    Pfluegermeister Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Hey, I loved it too. The problem is, there was more of it to love than I wanted. The film was simply too long. That's all there is to it. It's not so much a question of editing entire scenes out; all they had to do was trim bits from scenes and you'd have a leaner, meaner and more effective picture. If they'd just so much as trimmed the fat off the action scenes so that they were shorter, that alone would have probably shaved a half-hour off the running time and the film would have been the better for it.
     
  17. Darth_Pevra

    Darth_Pevra Force Ghost star 6

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    The scene above worked well enough for me. It was fast paced but you still knew what was going on.

    The end of ROTS is however over-edited were you jump from ending to ending and can barely keep up with grasping the emotions of the scene. Especially the cut from the Lars family to Vader was jarring. First the picture of hope, then Mr Evil standing in front of the Death Star? How is my brain supposed to jump between emotional states so quickly?
    It's by the way the same with the twin birth and Vader rising on that platform. Again completely different emotions shortly after another.
     
  18. EHT

    EHT New Films Manager star 7 Staff Member Manager

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    Geez, it's like they're trying to make it hard to tell what's happening.
     
  19. lord_eidolon

    lord_eidolon Jedi Master star 3

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    Still waiting for a Dolly Grip announcement, personally.
     
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  20. DARTHVENGERDARTHSEAR

    DARTHVENGERDARTHSEAR Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    Maybe this guy can go back and re-edit the Prequels, too. ;)
     
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  21. TheManFromMortis

    TheManFromMortis Jedi Knight star 3

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    You're not the only one! I'm itching to know which team members of The Human Society of the USA will be monitoring the treatment of animals on set. Get the wrong team and this could be a deal-breaker for me.
     
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  22. fishtailsam

    fishtailsam Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    I think this is better than a lot of the fight scenes in the Bourne franchise, in terms of being able to see whats going on.
     
  23. EHT

    EHT New Films Manager star 7 Staff Member Manager

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    Some of the fights in the Bourne series are edited in a way that I think is intended to make you feel kind of overwhelmed, like you're right in the middle of it... but that's all just close shots and quick edits. Something about this one goes beyond that and just ends up kind of a mess, IMO.
     
  24. EHT

    EHT New Films Manager star 7 Staff Member Manager

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    Yeah, that and the Best Boy Grip. We'll know a lot more about what to expect when this news hits.
     
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  25. Darth_Quintonis

    Darth_Quintonis Jedi Padawan star 1

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    Have they announced who will be getting J.J.'s Starbucks for him yet?