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ST Could Luke die in Episode VII?

Discussion in 'Sequel Trilogy' started by Drewdude91, Sep 1, 2014.

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  1. vypernight

    vypernight Jedi Master star 3

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    Oh I agree. I just think if it happens in VII, Luke will be the least likely.
     
  2. Darth Drangus

    Darth Drangus Jedi Youngling

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    Luke dying in the first act would be too much "poetry" as GL would say. I think Han will bite the dust. If the rumors are true, Han may have the spotlight in terms of OT characters during Ep7. Then, Luke and Leia get the spotlight in Ep8 and Ep9 as the villain (presumably a force-user) comes out of the shadows. I think this is a likely approach for JJ to take. The new heroes will be the focus, but each of the Big 3 will get their due without overcrowding the films.

    And what about seeing the villain mentor go down? That might be a much more interesting take. If we make a reasonable assumption that Driver is the apprentice of sorts to Max von Sydow (a likely scenario in my opinion), we could see the development of both hero and villain over the course of the trilogy.
     
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  3. yogacat

    yogacat Jedi Knight star 2

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    Very interesting, thus giving Driver a legitimate reason to go after Luke and/or Daisy (revenge). I like this.

    I'm in the same boat, it's most likely to be Han, if it has to be someone. Luke needs to train the newbies for a while, and Leia's character is potentially useful to tell the political aspect of the story (which we seem to be getting if the Republic/Empire factions still exist). It's Star Wars, there are going to be politics (I know people don't like them), but at least we get Leia as our politician to make things interesting.

    However, if Leia is taken out, she's not going out on her own. If Leia dies, Han goes down with her, or after her, avenging her or protecting their daughter. This is based on nothing but my own feeling it would be weird to have Han as a widower.

    I'm inclined to say both Han and Leia may go down together, saving their daughter, as this would certainly add tremendous tension for Daisy and strengthen the bond between her and Luke. However, Leia's character is arguably useful to the trilogy as a whole. I can see Leia resisting force training and shielding her daughter from it as she grew up, but if Han was killed or there was some new threat, agreeing to let Luke take her away to train her in hiding while Leia remained on Corusant to run/defend the Republic.

    I read previous posters mentioning Carrie's health being a risk factor in signing her on for more than one film (meaning they may kill off Leia just in case Carrie isn't able to do subsequent films), but from what we can tell (admittedly not a hell of a lot from online), she seems to be doing really well, and was a total pro on the TV show she recently filmed, nailing every scene and knew her lines perfectly.
     
  4. Pliolite

    Pliolite Jedi Master star 3

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    I really want Luke to be the core classic character throughout this trilogy. I have a feeling we won't be seeing him till later on in VII, as opposed to earlier and then dying later in the film. He will appear towards the end and then return to a more open life for VIII.
     
  5. PrincessKenobi

    PrincessKenobi Manager Emeritus star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    I don't want him to die. But it would certainly provide an interesting twist and narrative for the rest of the series if he did die. It would also set up many books because lets be honest we all want to know what he has been doing since RoTJ.
     
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  6. Darth Drangus

    Darth Drangus Jedi Youngling

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    I also question MvS lasting more than one film as he is 85 years old right now. I really doubt he is the Big Bad in this trilogy. Plus it makes sense to have the young actors Driver vs. Boyega/Ridley.

    My theory is that (as much as I hate it) Luke is not in Ep7 very much. He has been missing for a few years (why is what I don't know - but I don't think he's been captured). Ridley (Han/Leia's daughter) goes looking for him against her parents' wishes. That's where Tatooine comes into play - it's a reasonable place for her to go in the opening act if she wants to find an old Jedi recluse in hiding who happened to live there for 20 years.

    This allows Han to be the main OT personality in the movie as he chases his daughter. Ridley chases Luke, her uncle/mentor. She meets Boyega who is being chased by the Imperials he deserted. Essentially the two young leads are being chased by powerful people and it all comes to a head with the Sith? threat of MvS and Driver. Luke/Han/Leia have to have some time together in the third act before Han (and Leia?) goes out in a blaze of glory. In the end Luke saves the day with Boyega/Ridley, but doesn't die. If he does, I think a lot of fans would roll their eyes considering what happened to Qui-Gon/Ben. I think the filmmakers/Disney/the story group are too smart to simply retread old plot lines.
     
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  7. CaptainYossarian

    CaptainYossarian Jedi Master star 3

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    If Luke does die in the ST then it may be more likely to happen in Ep 8. Maybe he will come back in Ep 7, then his death could be the major event of the middle act of the new trilogy - then the younger characters have to go it alone in the final episode.

    I think Ep 7 is too early for him to die though. Luke is a link to the previous trilogy so you need to see him reestablish himself in the galaxy as it is in that time. Ep 7 may also serve to introduce the old characters to younger viewers for whom this may be their first SW film. So they need to see Luke do some stuff first before dies. Obi-Wan did of course die in the first film, yet the circumstances were different since the sequels were not assured. I think Luke will stay around for a while in the ST and he may even make it to the end.
     
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  8. ChildOfWinds

    ChildOfWinds Chosen One star 6

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    dr strangelove :
    Why does Han need to be a mentor to die? I don't really see Han as a "mentor-type" really. I don't think a mentor always needs to die either.

    Leia will likely be involved in the government. It will be interesting to see if Luke has given her some training too.

    I do hope that Luke survives, at least through episode IX, especially since from what we've been hearing, it doesn't sound like he will have much screentime in VII. :(







    PrincessKenobi:
    Sadly though, if Luke really *has* been either a prisoner or a hermit for 30 years, he won't be in any books and he won't have been doing anything since RotJ. :mad:
     
  9. Allana_Rey

    Allana_Rey Jedi Master star 4

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    I could see Luke dying because the "mentor" always dies in the first part of the trilogy, but I'd rather have Luke stick around until Episode IX and possibly die then.
     
  10. Jotun Denal

    Jotun Denal Jedi Grand Master star 6

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    If the rumor mill is to be believed, JJ Abrams rewrote the script in order to give the three one last big adventure so I think Luke will have a decent sized role.
     
  11. LANDO_ROCKS

    LANDO_ROCKS Force Ghost star 5

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    I'm hoping Luke dies in order to hand over the baton and shift the focus to the new heroes.
     
  12. Force Smuggler

    Force Smuggler Force Ghost star 7

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    Anakin's arc was 1-6 so anything less than 4-9 for Luke is not acceptable imo.
     
  13. Pro Scoundrel

    Pro Scoundrel New Films Expert At Modding Casual star 6 Staff Member Manager

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    But who's gonna train'em, kid, you? :)
     
  14. LANDO_ROCKS

    LANDO_ROCKS Force Ghost star 5

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    Luke's ghost? Someone Luke's trained in the last 30 years?
     
  15. Pro Scoundrel

    Pro Scoundrel New Films Expert At Modding Casual star 6 Staff Member Manager

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    The first one I doubt, because Obi-Wan couldn't do it in the OT, and still needed Yoda. The second option is possible, but would they really bring in a new character to train the new heroes when they've got Luke Skywalker? Luke training them makes a lot more sense thematically, dramatically. etc.
     
  16. LANDO_ROCKS

    LANDO_ROCKS Force Ghost star 5

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    Possibly but it's also super obvious.
     
  17. Pro Scoundrel

    Pro Scoundrel New Films Expert At Modding Casual star 6 Staff Member Manager

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    I don't mind that at all. Some things should follow logically. If they brought the big 3 back just to kill them off in the first film, I'll be disappointed. Han I could see dying, but Luke could still have a good story purpose for being there.
     
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  18. LANDO_ROCKS

    LANDO_ROCKS Force Ghost star 5

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    I guess I'm imagining how dramatic his death would be and how that could really drive the story is all.
     
  19. Force Smuggler

    Force Smuggler Force Ghost star 7

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    Feels too obvious to kill Luke off in Episode imo.
     
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  20. plaidphoenix

    plaidphoenix Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    And exactly when is Episode IMO coming out? :D
     
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  21. Force Smuggler

    Force Smuggler Force Ghost star 7

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    Dang it. Thanks for the catch. Episode 7
     
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  22. JediMatteus

    JediMatteus Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    If luke dies, that might be the straw for me
     
  23. dolphin

    dolphin Chosen One star 5

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    When all this is done (whether Ep7 or Ep9), will Mark Hamill go back to comics (or whatever he's doing now) or have a movie career? [face_thinking]
     
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  24. I Are The Internets

    I Are The Internets Shelf of Shame Host star 9 VIP - Game Host

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    I think Luke will die

















    a little inside if he reads some of the comments in this thread.
     
  25. Dak Oolron

    Dak Oolron Jedi Knight star 3

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    Anything could happen. See my sig for my opinion on the ST story arc for The Heroes of Yavin. [face_coffee]
    If it were up to me, Luke would get a Yoda-like death at the end of the series (be it Ep IX or XII), peacefully passing into the Force. However, I don't thing that will actually happen, for some reason.
     
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