Speculation Could Mortis have something to do with Episode 7

Discussion in 'Star Wars: Episode VII and Beyond (Archive)' started by the-jedi-prince, Nov 4, 2012.

  1. Sith_Knight087 Jedi Master

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    You should probably just ignore that statement... I'm over now it anyway [face_peace]
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  2. SithLord_1270 Jedi Grand Master

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    Oh God, I hope not! I didn't like that story.
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  3. Sith_Knight087 Jedi Master

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    But if it's really that big a deal, lets just say that because the stories involving Mortis do happen in a higher EU canon T.V show ''The Clone Wars'', it's continuity stands above that of the lower canon EU books and as such not subject to the possibility of being altered or erased like the books when it comes to the ST...... However if Disney want to for whatever reason go ahead and erase a good deal of EU ''T.V shows included'' from canon ''i.e. so that Mortis never existed'' then whats to stop them from doing so.
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  4. KevinM1 Jedi Grand Master

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    Same here. It just didn't make much sense or have any real impact.

    We know that Anakin will turn to the Dark Side, so we don't need any more foreshadowing. We don't really learn much about The Force, aside from it having anthropomorphic avatars (which is a horrible idea, IMO). And since no one remembers anything, none of the characters are impacted by it at all.

    It's really just a poorly conceived "What if?" whose only redeeming factor was having Liam Neeson return for about a minute's worth of dialogue.
  5. EHT New Films Manager

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    Please... no Mortis.
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  6. bstnsx704 Jedi Grand Master

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    I haven't seen the 'Mortis' trilogy but the story seems to be very interesting. I'd love to see the nature of the Force expanded and presented in some interesting new ways, and from what I heard the 'Mortis' trilogy does just that (while dividing the entire fanbase, of course :p ).

    I'd love to see more elements like the cave on Dagobah in future films.
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  7. EHT New Films Manager

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    Dagobah cave = excellent storytelling.
    Mortis = horrible storytelling.



    IMO. :p
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  8. DARTHSHAME Force Ghost

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    Wow! I came across this thread Googled Mortis and was horrified by what I read. A storyline involving this is not how I would expect Disney/LFL to introduce the Sequel Trilogy. Way too mystical. One of the great things about the OT is that things were kept fairly simple. The audience knew where everybody stood. Introducing the Son, Daughter, Mother, Father I suspect would be too much for many in the audience to swallow.
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  9. bstnsx704 Jedi Grand Master

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    As someone who has yet to see The Clone Wars but is very, very intrigued by the premise of this episode, I think something like this has the potential to be quite interesting in Episode VII and beyone. Maybe not with literal characters embodying the various sides of the Force, but something along those lines of what I'm assuming went down in this episode. Personally speaking, I think throwing the audience off guard a little bit would actually be a good thing. Give this trilogy its own identity while keeping in line with what game before, just as the previous two had their own while still being reflective of one another.
  10. Placeholder Force Ghost

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    I liked the Mortis storyline in the show very much, but I agree that it's not likely something they will address in the movies.
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  11. DARTHSHAME Force Ghost

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    I am all for establishing a unique identity for the Sequel trilogy. I can even go with throwing the audience off guard. However, Mortis is not the way.
  12. GGrievous Force Ghost

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    Everytime I see your icon, I want to vomit. ;)
  13. Placeholder Force Ghost

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    I think it's more likely that we are going to see a trilogy that features concventional protagonists vs antagonists. As interesting as the Mortis storyline is, I don't see them using it in a film meant for general audiences.
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  14. DARTHVENGERDARTHSEAR Chosen One

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    You know, It wouldn't have surprised me if they revealed Mother Talzin was an Anchorite, too. She seems like she could have been one, what with her appearance and all. But who knows if the Anchorites even exist? Maybe Filoni and co. will elaborate on this before the show is over, eh?
  15. darklordoftech Force Ghost

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    If Mortis is so controversial, why doesn't anyone complain about the Dagobah cave?
  16. anakinfansince1983 Chosen One

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    Because what @eht13 said.

    And nobody mentions the "Chosen One" in the Dagobah cave.
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  17. EHT New Films Manager

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    Dagobah:
    "What's in there?"
    "Only what you take with you."

    Mortis:
    "Check it out, we have a yin-yang design on the floor here."
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  18. anakinfansince1983 Chosen One

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    Mortis is what happens when, instead of telling him to go home and rethink his life, Obi-Wan actually becomes Elan Sleazebaggano's client, as do Anakin and Ahsoka:

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  19. DARTHVENGERDARTHSEAR Chosen One

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    Because it was the dark side presence in the cave that created a vision for Luke to see a possible future of his.

    Mortis? Well, who knows what it was. A weird dream? A vision of the future? A voyage to the past? A parallel dimension? A world deep in the outer rim? A world in another galaxy? The afterlife plane of the Force, perhaps? None of the above? I mean, what was it? Too many questions. At least we know what the cave is.
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  20. Placeholder Force Ghost

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    For all we know, the cave was just a complicated Jedi mind trick of Yoda's to teach Luke a lesson. If not, at face value it's made clear that it is an area of the planet strong with the dark side of the force. Who knows why.
  21. DARTHVENGERDARTHSEAR Chosen One

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    Yeah, but the point is that the scene told us one thing, which was a warning to Luke if he persists in following his unaware father's foot steps (being afraid and all), then he would end up like him in the end. Clear cut, if you ask me.
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  22. Placeholder Force Ghost

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    Yes, it was clearly a warning to Luke about his possible destiny
  23. darklordoftech Force Ghost

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    Mortis was a warning to Anakin and Anakin didn't heed it. The cave was a warning to Luke and Luke did heed it.
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  24. Placeholder Force Ghost

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    Mortis was not a warning to Anakin, Anakin's memory of it was wiped by The Father after The Son attempted to turn Anakin to the dark side by showing him his future. That is not a warning. Far from it.
  25. CT-867-5309 Force Ghost

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    Because they're not identical, or even close.

    One is good.

    The other is not.
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