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Could Shadows of The Empire Actually Made It As A Movie?

Discussion in 'Classic Trilogy' started by YodasGroove, Jan 12, 2003.

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  1. YodasGroove

    YodasGroove Jedi Youngling star 1

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    Do you think Shadows of The Empire had enough "juice" to have actually made it as a big screen movie in the fashion of The Star Wars Classic?

    I guess in another reality it would've had to be released between Empire and Jedi, between '80 and '82? Probably not enough time to pull it off successfully and still fit into the flow?

    Would do you think? I think the Tales Of The Jedi Saga still has potential as a movie in the future to be made. Great Comic Series.
     
  2. Bib Fortuna Twi'lek

    Bib Fortuna Twi'lek Jedi Youngling star 10

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    If it were to be made now, it would have to be animated, or entirely CG, a la Final Fantasy, since the actors are too old to play those roles now. They could still provide the voices, though.
     
  3. Obi-Wan McCartney

    Obi-Wan McCartney Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    no...only because like most EU authors, they have made a totally implausible "bad-ass" villain.
     
  4. metaforcesaber

    metaforcesaber Jedi Youngling star 2

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    Wait, are we referring to the N64 video game or the EU book? Or both? I assume this thread is focused on the book (which I haven't read), however I think the N64 SotE game would've made a good movie.

    Heck, I think the PS1 Phantom Menace game had an overwhelmingly better script than Ep...
    wait, that's for a different thread. [face_mischief]

     
  5. YodasGroove

    YodasGroove Jedi Youngling star 1

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    This would be in refernce to the total Shadows multimedia project; the book, the comic, the game, the cd rom, basically the story in general, do you think it could of made it as a silver screen picture like the rest?

    Bib, that CG idea and animated idea with the original actors provided voices sounds interesting.

     
  6. Dark Lady Mara

    Dark Lady Mara Manager Emeritus star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    I don't think it would have made as good a movie as it did a book. SotE had a lot more intrigue and a lot less action than a typical SW movie, and there was also the lack of a lightsaber duel.
     
  7. Lanky

    Lanky Jedi Padawan star 4

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    lack of a lightsaber duel.

    There was one in the comic between Vader and some training droids.
     
  8. DarthBoba

    DarthBoba Manager Emeritus star 9 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    That's not a sabre duel, that's practice. :)

    Possibly. It had an interesting enough storyline from my perspective. I'd make the fight between Luke and Guri near the end of the book longer and more detailed-maybe even bring it up to the level of Obi-Wan vs. Jango. That'd be a good replacement for a sabre duel.
     
  9. Bib Fortuna Twi'lek

    Bib Fortuna Twi'lek Jedi Youngling star 10

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    They'd also have to rev up the space battle as they flee from Coruscant in order to make a satisfying conclusion.
     
  10. newjack

    newjack Jedi Youngling

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    The fact is anyone with a very good computer in I'd say about 10 years will be able to make any movie they want,if they now how to use the technology.So yes there will be many other star wars movies made.
     
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  11. Lanky

    Lanky Jedi Padawan star 4

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    no...only because like most EU authors, they have made a totally implausible "bad-ass" villain.

    Hmm. I thought Xizor was one of the better EU villains, he isn't some all-powerful left over darksider. But that's another topic entirely.

    Could Shadows of The Empire Actually Made It As A Movie?

    I think it could. It kind of departs from the OT style though, with the crime syndicate thing. The only problem would be what to cut. I would cut ALOT of Xizors palace scenes.
     
  12. VadersLaMent

    VadersLaMent Chosen One star 10

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    I was not impressed with Xixor. I thought it funny that Perry ripped off his own ideas from the Madator Series, but I guess if your going to plagarise anyone, it should be yourself ;) 8-}

    On a side note, if you can find it, Perry's Matador series is a GREAT read of sci fi combined with martial arts.
     
  13. StarDude

    StarDude Jedi Knight star 5

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    I think it would have been great on the big screen.

    Didn't Rick McCallum say that he hopes SotE will one day become a movie?
     
  14. Kitt327

    Kitt327 Jedi Master star 4

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    SOTE would make a really bad movie, imo.

    I agree that Xizor was a bad villian ... he was really just a 'Gary Stu' imo. The worst part was the whole 'my pheromones make me irrestible to all women!!' plot device. And I won't even get on to 'Han Solo Clone' Dash.

    I guess some of the action sequences would be good in a movie, the swoop chase comes to mind.
     
  15. batvader

    batvader Jedi Youngling star 3

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    I am happy that it made for a really entertaining ''soundtrack'' album. The story wasn't that good for a film.
     
  16. LottDodd

    LottDodd Jedi Master star 4

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    I Hated Shadows of the Empire.... The N64 game rocked but besides all that I think Everybody and their Grandmother allready had a better story in their head about what took place between Empire and Jedi. This was a great Era and could have been a great book... but they really dropped the ball on this one.
     
  17. VadersLaMent

    VadersLaMent Chosen One star 10

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    I forgot about Rendar. Why not just make your own original character rather than make a bad copy of Han Solo...and then at every chance you can grind it into the reader's face that he is so much like Solo?

    The basic idea could be used for a film, but LOTS of tweaking would be needed to make it watchable.

    EDIT: I do think the Outrider is a cool ship and I'm glad it was put in the ANH SE.
     
  18. Bib Fortuna Twi'lek

    Bib Fortuna Twi'lek Jedi Youngling star 10

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    There's nothing wrong with two characters in the same galaxy resembling each other. You don't think that out of the trillions and trillions of beings in the galaxy, two people can't have similar characteristics?
     
  19. DarthBoba

    DarthBoba Manager Emeritus star 9 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    I rather liked Xixor, although I do find his pheromones to be a stupid idea. On the whole, this book reminds me more of the prequels than the originals-less action, more thought.
     
  20. VadersLaMent

    VadersLaMent Chosen One star 10

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    Maybe not much wrong with it on the surface but he may have just went with the actions of the character instead of constantly telling the reader how much he is like Solo. He still could have just made an original character instead. I know he can, I have read his other work and he is a hell of a good writer.
     
  21. D_Lowe

    D_Lowe Jedi Knight star 6

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    As much as I like the novel, I don't see this story becoming a movie.
     
  22. Master Salty

    Master Salty Jedi Knight star 6

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    I don't think it should be made simply for the fact of where it falls in the timeline for the movies.
     
  23. Tayschrenn

    Tayschrenn Jedi Padawan star 4

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    I am pretty sure GL would never approve for another movie to be made. Also, he wouldn't like the idea of breaking up the saga (despite the fact that most fans probably wouldn't mind it.)

    Tayschrenn
     
  24. NiktosRule

    NiktosRule Jedi Padawan star 4

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    No because Xizor totally sucks as a villian. He is a complete loser.
     
  25. Darth-Vengence

    Darth-Vengence Jedi Padawan star 4

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    It wouldn't have to be totally CG, just the characters like Han Solo, Luke, Leia and Lando, but everything else could actually be shot. Like Darth Vader, the droids, Dash Rendar, Xizor, the Emperor, and Guri, and the environments.

    All characters exept Luke, Han, Leia, and Lando could be shot, and all environments could too.

    Think about it.
     
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