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PT Could Sidious have turned Anakin if Shmi had survived?

Discussion in 'Prequel Trilogy' started by The Supreme Chancellor, Jan 24, 2013.

  1. The Supreme Chancellor

    The Supreme Chancellor Jedi Master star 4

    Sep 4, 2012
    That means Palps would have also had to bank on Anakin having visions about Shmi. And also the timing of his rescue attempt. Had Anakin left a day or two earlier he would have save his mother. This line of thinking doesn't really make sense.
  2. Iron_lord

    Iron_lord Force Ghost star 9

    Sep 2, 2012
    AoTC novel pages 264 to 265:

    It was more than a desire to inflict pain, Shmi realised, though she didn't speak their croaking language. This was the Tusken way of measuring their enemies, and from the nods and the tone of their voices, she realized that her resilience had impressed them.

    They didn't know that her resilience was wrought of a mother's love. Without the memories of Annie and the hope that he would feel her love for him, she would surely have given up long ago and allowed herself to die.

    It's possible that, whenever he discovered her (past a certain point) she'd have died shortly after, either in the tent or on the way back.
  3. anakinfansince1983

    anakinfansince1983 Nightsister of Four Realms star 10 Staff Member Manager

    Mar 4, 2011
    Yeah, Anakin would have had to show up two or three weeks earlier at least. He had been having visions about her since she was kidnapped. But I still don't think Palpatine had anything to do with it.
  4. ObiAlKenobi

    ObiAlKenobi Jedi Knight star 3

    Mar 10, 2012
    Yes. The Emperor was far too wise and cunning to let that be his only Ace in the hole.
  5. CrayonWendigo

    CrayonWendigo Jedi Knight

    Jan 28, 2013
    I think the most interesting scenario would be this one:

    Anakin Skywalker has the premonition. The Jedi still tell him not to go, but he goes anyway. When he goes, he is just in time to stop her abduction, rape, and torture by the Tusken Raiders. He saves her because he listened to the Force.

    Thereafter, Anakin has the same sort of predominations about Amidala. He knows that he has the power to change things, but he is not sure how. Palpatine reacts to his fears and...

    Still is able to turn him to the Dark Side.

    I think the key is that Anakin must trust in his premonitions. If his premonitions constantly failed him, for instance, Palpatine could not sufficiently seduce him to the Dark Side by the hope that Amidala would be saved. He would have to give him something far, far more tangible as proof of this.
  6. deadly jp

    deadly jp Jedi Knight star 1

    Jul 27, 2014
    I dont think anakin would of turned if his mother didnt die, he wouldn't have anything to lose.
    what excuse would palpantine have to turn anakin to the dark side?
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  7. DurararaFTW

    DurararaFTW Jedi Knight star 3

    Jul 5, 2014
    If Anakin's mother was still there, having barely survived, Padme and Anakin wouldn't leave Tatioone to go after Obi-Wan at all. And the other Jedi wouldn't get there in time and Obi-Wan would be dead. That would surely be the fuel Anakin needs to hate Dooku even more then he did in ROTS. Palpatine would have another angle.
  8. Force Smuggler

    Force Smuggler Force Ghost star 7

    Sep 2, 2012
    Tough question. No idea.