Lit Could the Order of Sith Lord's have been avoided in the first place?

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  1. Matthew78 Jedi Grand Master

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    I always find this to interesting, how the Jedi Order exiled the fallen Dark Jedi 3,000 years before the Golden Age Of The Sith Empire comic, on a seemingly deserted planet and left them to die of old age in exile, but forgot to check to see if there were any sentient species on the planet that would be affected by them, if they had checked out Korriban first and seen that there were local residents that were primitive they might have been smart and just found another planet without anyone on it, no primitives and no chance of them interacting with anyone else, like Myrkr or Dantooine or some other backwater planet.

    Then the Dark Jedi might have died from old age and never become the Sith Lord's at all, the Republic and Jedi Order would continue on for thousands of years and the Sith would never rise to threaten it, seems like the Jedi dropped the ball by not checking out Korriban to see if there were any native sentient species before they left the Dark Jedi there, if they had been more careful in chosing a location they could have avoided thousands of years of war and conflict, then all you have to worry about is the eventual Yuuzhan Vong invasion that would happen no matter what, but a united Galactic Republic and large and strong Jedi Order would deal with that very easily, 10,000 thousand Jedi Knights and a united Republic would stand against the invaders, but without a military they would suffer at first but rebound in the end.

    But it always seems stupid that the Jedi dropped the Dark Jedi off on Korriban and didnt check to see if there were intelligent beings there first, knowing full well that evil fallen Jedi would enslave and dominate weak primitives easily and cause huge future problems, at least King Brand of Ganath ruled the Ganathans with Justice and Peace as a Jedi, he had honor and remained a true Jedi, the Dark Jedi would not be so generous with others, leaving the fallen jedi on a planet with primitives seems like the biggest mistake in Star Wars, leaving them on Hoth or Dagobah or some hellhole planet seems like a better idea, and no rise of evil darksiders in the future.
  2. darklordoftech Force Ghost

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    The Jedi didn't even know where the Exiles' ship would land, nor did they know that Korriban and Ziost existed.
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  3. Gorefiend Chosen One

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    The Republic originally wanted the fallen Jedi murdered, the Jedi did not agree and opted for exile by shooting them into an unknown part of the galaxy aboard an unarmed transport, were the Jedi hoped they would find a new world to settle and seek Redemption. The Jedi of course being rather stupid and at the time written by Anderson did not see the potential problems with the plan.
  4. Matthew78 Jedi Grand Master

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    Didnt the Jedi or Republic pilot the ship themselves to the planet Korriban? Why send a ship on autopilot when you have Dark Jedi on it? What if they got control of the ship?

    I always thought that the Jedi brought them there in chains, dropped them off on the planet and left, not checking the planet out first, big mistake, sending dark jedi on a ship by themselves on autopilot or to be piloted by them is just stupid, you need to control things, lest they manage to land somewhere like Nar Shadda or Alderaan and go free.

    To bad the Jedi did not Forsee the future and see that the Dark Jedi would thrive, build an empire and return in the future to gain revenge, and end up haunting the Jedi and Republic for thousands of years, they might have controlled the exiles landing, or just asked them to Repent and turn from the Dark Side, then when they declined kill them and be rid of the dark future.
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  5. Gorefiend Chosen One

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    Nep, as mentioned Anderson.


    Yeah... not the Jedi way. Ask Lucien Draay about how such stuff works out.
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  6. darklordoftech Force Ghost

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    KJA and Veitch created the Old Republic era
  7. Mechalich Force Ghost

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    If the Jedi had not chosen to exile that specific group of schismatic dark siders another one would have arisen. It is inevitable. The Jedi Order creates the Sith. Two sides of the same Force coin, just as the Witches of Dathomir create the Nightsisters, and all the other major Force traditions have their own fallen membership.

    In the end, by the way, the exile of the Hundred Year Darkness Era Dark Jedi did not produce the Sith of the modern era. They all died out at some point following the destruction of Vitiate's Sith Empire. The Baneite Sith were an offshoot of Lord Kaan's Brotherhood, which was itself a product of Darth Ruin's Sith produced from an entirely different schism than the one that sourced the Old Republic Sith. Worth noting that the same thing happens again to produce the One Sith.
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  8. darklordoftech Force Ghost

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    But they wouldn't be the Sith
  9. Matthew78 Jedi Grand Master

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    Without the inspiration of others the Banite group wouldnt have any legacy to follow either, the main Sith group was inspired by the Sith Lord's that came before, even Bane was inspired by the past and went to Lehon and other places, without any prior dark siders they would be on their own and grasping at straws, nip the original group in the bud and most wouldnt rebel, or very few would, no Palpatine, no Bane, maybe the witches would have arisen but they were barely a threat, they didnt seek war with the Jedi and Yoda made peace with them.
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  10. darklordoftech Force Ghost

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    And don't forget that Ruin united existing Sith
  11. Mechalich Force Ghost

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    And this is important precisely how? So you can prevent one specifically dark side associated cultural group from forming. All that you've changed is that the Sith are referred to using a different proper noun.

    There are fully Four Great Schisms in the history of the Jedi Order wherein some group of Jedi broke off due to heresy, fell to the dark side en masse, and became agents of evil. That's not counting Darth Krayt, or the corruption of the Pius Dea that birthed the Order of the Terrible Glare, or any as yet unknown internal Jedi conflicts that the EU will doubtless create in the future.

    You cannot eliminate evil from the galaxy and you cannot destroy the dark side.

    Saying the Sith thousands of years in the past led to Sith in the present in like saying that Imperial Rome led to fascism under Hitler and Mussolini - totally bogus. Yes, in both cases there's a lot of borrowing of symbolism but the relationship is just that: symbolic.
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  12. Force Smuggler Chosen One

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    How would things have changed if Gav and Jori Daragon hadn't gone to hyperspace and ended up in Sith space?
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  13. Ulicus Lit'ari

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    It's time to address the elephant in the thread:

    "Sith Lords" needs no apostrophe. I'm in physical pain at this point. Please stop.
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  14. _Catherine_ Force Ghost

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    Its enough to turn all the Jedi's to the Dark Side.
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  15. darklordoftech Force Ghost

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    What is?
  16. Darth_Arapsis Jedi Knight

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    The Sith don't really need inspiration, there are always plenty of authoritarian regimes. All you need is the right historical circumstances and a dark sider can take over and cause some havoc.


    The exile thing was stupid, if you are going to exile them do what they did with Khan and make sure nobody visits that area of space.
  17. Ulicus Lit'ari

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    Don't make me destroy you. [face_waiting]
  18. Mechalich Force Ghost

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    The issue of exile is that it is effectively impossible (barring Ysalamiri or equivalent workarounds that apparently weren't available in 5,000 BBY) to keep a skilled Force user in confinement long-term, at least not without ruinous expenditures of resources in the process, and the Jedi Order doesn't want to spend all its time guarding Sith prisoners. So they were left with the choice of simply executing them all - which may have been the smart move but legitimate moral stands against capital punishment are viable - or doing something else. Dumping them outside of known space was apparently the best idea at the time.
  19. _Catherine_ Force Ghost

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    Space punctuation.
  20. darklordoftech Force Ghost

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    It's enough to turn Yoda and Obi-Wan to the Dark Side [face_laugh]
  21. Darth_Arapsis Jedi Knight

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    Strip them of technonolgy, give them books about farming and put tehm on lush planet which easy to farm.
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  22. Reveen Jedi Grand Master

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    I don't think the Jedi, after a devastating war with the Dark Jedi, would have the luxury of micro-managing the exiles. Finding them a planet they know they can live on, methodically stripping them of technology, and moving them all would take time and effort during which the psychos can try to attack again and do even more damage.

    The only thing they can really do to prevent more destruction is to herd them into unarmed ships and run them off into uncharted space before they can try anything funny.

    On the other hand, the Wook says the exiles consisted of just twelve dark Jedi and their minions? Do we know if the minions were force users or not? Because resettling them while chasing off the Dark Jedi might have worked better.
  23. Darth_Culator Force Ghost

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    If that bunch of exiles hadn't become the Sith, another bunch of exiles would have become the Sith, because... Sith happens.

    (Someone had to say it.)
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