Could you kill another human?

Discussion in 'Archive: The Senate Floor' started by Rouge Null, May 2, 2002.

Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.
  1. Cailina Force Ghost

    Member Since:
    Mar 18, 1999
    star 4
    To defend myself or those I care about(close friends/family) I could probably kill someone.

    I would die to defend someone I cared about too.
  2. Kerr_Plunk Jedi Grand Master

    Member Since:
    Apr 2, 2002
    star 6
    i would die to defend my children/loved ones
  3. Admiral_Thrawn60 Jedi Youngling

    Member Since:
    Jul 8, 2000
    star 6
    In defence of loved ones, myself, or my country.
  4. PROPHEToftheCOUNCIL Force Ghost

    Member Since:
    Mar 11, 2001
    star 4
  5. Fluke_Groundwalker Jedi Youngling

    Member Since:
    Aug 11, 2001
    star 5
    Catholic version says "Thou shalt not Kill" hence their anti-death penalty stance.

    I'm Catholic and I support the death penalty. As do most of my friends and family. Do not make assumptions when you don't know what you're talking about.

    I would kill for my family, friends, and country.
  6. Lordban Force Ghost

    Member Since:
    Nov 9, 2000
    star 5
    I am able too. I have, unfortunately, had a chance to check that fact. Almost killed a stupid kid who kept taunting me for an hour until I went berserk and strangled him. If not for other people's interference, I would have killed him.
    That's the reason why I've been controlling my anger ever since.
  7. Cailina Force Ghost

    Member Since:
    Mar 18, 1999
    star 4
    Catholic version says "Thou shalt not Kill" hence their anti-death penalty stance.

    I'm Catholic and I support the death penalty. As do most of my friends and family. Do not make assumptions when you don't know what you're talking about.


    I did not mean that all Catholics are anti-death penalty. I meant that the official stance of the Catholic church is that they are anti-death penalty. Better? I'm basing this on what I was taught having been raised a Catholic.
  8. Darth Rayder Force Ghost

    Member Since:
    Oct 14, 1999
    star 4
    Actually, the Church's stance is that the death penalty is permissible if there is no other way to protect society from an assailant. However, the Pope has suggested that such instances are exceedingly rare.
  9. thegreatyoda Force Ghost

    Member Since:
    Jun 10, 2001
    star 4
    I might be able to in self defense. But if I did, I know I would spend the rest of my life haunted by it. Well, if I ran into Hitler I'd kill him without a second thought. But anyone else would probably cause me some permanant emotional damage.
  10. mjerome3 Jedi Grand Master

    Member Since:
    May 11, 2000
    star 6
    Could you kill another human?

    Hell yeah!

    If my life was threatened! In a situation like that the natural survival laws kick in. I feel that you, as a form of life itself, have a right to do away with anyone who is in anyway trying to hurt you. That's the laws of nature. Being scared and running from the problem is okay too. But you can hide and still get killed by your attacker. If you have knowledge that someone is after you, and you know who it is, you have a God given right to seek them out in violent fashion as well.

    Malcolm X said "By any means Necessary"

    And that's my law too!
  11. Boywunder Jedi Youngling

    Member Since:
    May 6, 2002
    "In defense of loved ones, myself, and my country."

    What if your country wanted you to do it for an unjust cause?

    I'll never blindly follow any government.
  12. Obi-Zahn Kenobi Chosen One

    Member Since:
    Aug 23, 1999
    star 7
    I refuse to answer that question TrainingForUtopia.

    [face_plain]

    Get thee to banland.
  13. Darth Rayder Force Ghost

    Member Since:
    Oct 14, 1999
    star 4
    I realized that I didn't answer the original question.

    Yes, I could kill another human, if I was threatened. With some ease, in fact. If someone attempts to harm my loved ones or myself, I could end their life without the slightest hint of remorse.. well, no remorse for the action. I'd be sorry that I was placed in that situation, perhaps.
  14. Mrs_MayimNaar Jedi Master

    Member Since:
    Feb 14, 2002
    star 4
    Here's another interesting question to ponder: Would you kill a loved one to save them great pain?

    For example, if someone you loved were trapped under a rock after a landslide, and was dying a slow excruciating death, and there was no way to save them, would you kill them to put them out of their misery?

    Or like in The Last of The Mohicans when Duncan gives himself to the Indians to save Cora's life. They then string him up and begin to burn him alive. Nathaniel stops just outside the camp and turns around to shoot Duncan (they call it a "mercy killing" in the book) to save him from the misery he is in.

    So, could you? Kill someone to save them from pain? I am talking about in an extreme, circumstance, mind you, not euthanasia.
  15. R2D2-PENA Jedi Knight

    Member Since:
    Aug 6, 2001
    star 3
    Here is another question:

    Have you ever killed anyone? And how did you feel? And have you ever been in a life or death situation?

    For me, the answers would be YES, i have killed someone, and i felt really scared and at the same time relieved (in the good sense) i ran a guy over in my car, and killed him, but it was not my fault and i felt scared, but at the same time relieved being the fact that i was not blatanly killing that person, so would that mean that in a state of war or self-defense, i would feel remorse? maybe not, as i have already experienced this, and i was once in a shootout situation where i was forced to protect and be protected and i know how i would react next time.

    How about you?
  16. JangoFettClone Jedi Master

    Member Since:
    Apr 24, 2002
    star 4
    Remind me never to jump in front of your car.
  17. R2D2-PENA Jedi Knight

    Member Since:
    Aug 6, 2001
    star 3
    Hey i was on the highway, it was not my fault, but i now remember to look forward when driving.
  18. IAmTheDarkSide Jedi Master

    Member Since:
    Jan 9, 2002
    star 4
    I've never killed anyone, but I think that if I did it wouldn't tear me apart. I'm not a real emotional person; I'm not awed by awesome things, I don't cry when relatives die, I don't dwell on pain or shortcomings, and I don't get stressed out about things.
  19. Tuebor Jedi Knight

    Member Since:
    Dec 26, 2001
    Kill another? Two contexts.

    #1 Murder: I hope not, I'd like to think that I have the control to find another way to deal with the rage that would bring that possibility.

    #2 Other: Without a doubt. Not just in defense of my life or my family or loved ones. I look at the other person's action. If some ^%^!$#@! is hurting someone or threatening someone else that is their action. What is required to stop their aggressive action? If 'diplomacy' or 'negotation' works...great If not, I'd choose to protect the victim whether I love them or not whether I know them or not No regret for the 'big stick' or small caliber.
  20. Lisse Jedi Knight

    Member Since:
    Jan 6, 2001
    star 3
    Most of the time, no. There's only two exceptions I can think of: to save my life or those of my loved ones, or if the person I happened to be killing was someone truly evil. Hitler or Stalin comes to mind. But otherwise, no way.
  21. Dathka Jedi Knight

    Member Since:
    Jan 24, 2002
    star 1
    It is impossible to answer that question with 100% certainty as people usually don't stop to think it extreme situations but rather react. I think I could kill someone, but I've never been in a situation where I've had to find out (thankfully).

    Morally however I have no problem with defending myself or others.

    There is also a very fine distinction between intentionally seeking the death of someone and having them die because of your behaviour modifying techniques ;). In order to protect a loved one I would probably try to incapacitate the person the fastest and shurest way possible. If the only way to do that was a deathblow to the spine then so be it.
  22. queenseamstress TFN Costumes Staff

    VIP
    Member Since:
    Jan 30, 2002
    star 3
    I could kill someone if the situation was to protect my young children or another member of my family-and I would not think twice. I could also do this in a self-defense situation where my own life was in danger.
    As far as what Mrs. MN was saying earlier-I think it depends on the situation. If there was any possible way to save the person I loved, or if it was a terminal illness type situation, I beleive I could not do it. I would do anythign in my paower to save them or make them more comfortable, but I do not beleive I could kill them-nor do I believe in mercy suicide to terminally ill patients.
    There is a reason murder and suicide are great sins-death should be from natural causes or accidents-not by someone purposely causing death for any reason. That is the job of our maker to decide when our time is up. This is also the reason serial killers do what they do-in general, most of their lives they have felt powerless, and causing death gives them the feeling of power and control that God must have.
    If I ever had to kill someone to protect myself or family-I would not regret it, but I am sure it would bother me for the rest of my life.
  23. Valiowk Force Ghost

    Member Since:
    Apr 23, 2000
    star 6
    I will not say that I couldn't, even if I think that it would have to be a really bad situation for me to kill another human. Many a time I have told myself that there is really no use in doing so, but I realise that we do not necessarily listen to what our minds tell us, rather acting on the spur of the moment.

    Nor will I say that if I kill, it would be either in self-defence or defending someone who shared the same ideals as me, was close to my heart or was innocent. I hope never to have to ever be faced with such a situation.

    And most importantly, I hope that I will not be grappled by hate so strong that I might actually want to kill someone in revenge. The thought of it sickens me, but it is a reality that many a time terrible events such as these can make us change our feelings and harden them.

    So yes, I probably could kill someone else, but I know that I would definitely feel guilty and miserable about it all my life.

    As for whether I could lay down my life for somebody else, yes, I could. There are a lot of people in this world who deserve much better than I do, and I know that I have been very fortunate to be able to live the life that I have now. There are many people who don't deserve to die, and if by my death I can save them so that they can contribute in positive ways to the people around them, it would be worth it.
  24. RidingMyCarousel Force Ghost

    Member Since:
    Feb 20, 2002
    star 6
    To save someone I loved or care about? Yes
    For self defense? Possibly.
    For sake of doing it? No

    For self defense, the reason I said possibly is that if I know I can escape the situation without harming the person, I would. I hate violence. I think if I could just break a nose or hurt a leg or something, I'd do that before killing them.

    How many of you would die for another human?
    Yeah. I'd gladly give my life to help save someone else. Maybe it's because I'm not afraid of death. But I care about my loved ones and friends before I care about myself.
  25. Cristalia Jedi Knight

    Member Since:
    May 15, 2000
    star 3
    Could I kill someone? Yes.
    Could I die for someone? Yes.

    All I'd need was a good enough reason.

    Cris~
Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.