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Lit CRUCIBLE by Troy Denning: The Official Discussion Thread (Spoilers Allowed)

Discussion in 'Literature' started by Havac , Jun 13, 2013.

  1. Havac

    Havac Former Moderator star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Han Solo, Luke Skywalker, and Princess Leia have spent a lifetime fighting wars, bringing the Jedi back from extinction, raising families, and saving the galaxy more times than they can count. They've earned the right to rest on their laurels and let the younger generation shoulder the burden -- but fate has another adventure in store for our heroes, a quest only they can tackle and hope to survive...
    July 9, 2013​
    Hardcover, 302 pages​
     
  2. Point Given

    Point Given Manager Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Having read spoilers but not the book I have to say it sounds extremely disappointing and not just because of the 250 page hardcover.
     
  3. Jedi Ben

    Jedi Ben Chosen One star 7

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    It is time.

    Crucible will finally break Sinrebirth!

    [face_devil]

    Not expecting Vestara fans to be happy either. No, I have no direct info - others do, should they take advantage of the opportunity....
     
  4. CeiranHarmony

    CeiranHarmony Jedi Master star 5

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    so why does anybody think these spoilers are legit? I'd call it fake.. I am not one to judge a book by spoilers (anymore :p) so I'll refrain from doing that here but instead judge the spoilers themselves and what they made me think:

    lame plot, filler story, not at all tied to anything but by character names. maybe that's because of the spoilers did not spoil much yet. but that is my first impression of them.

    At least I am glad this is in no way what haters and rebootcrazy fans are discussing for ages now on these boards.. no reboot book, no end of EU adventure, not even anything extraordinary. But funniest I think is, if anybody tries to connect this books plot to the Sequels potential stories or characters, I think that is a foolish attempt. No way will it tie to that in any way since it was written and final long before the news for the new movie even spilled online.

    I wish for fans who discuss the spoilers and new books to at least for the time being leave stuff like rebootfear, tying all new EU stuff to the new movies and that out of every topic that is about LIT and not the sequels dammit.
     
  5. Point Given

    Point Given Manager Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Not sure about the spoilers you've heard but the ones I have (major characters' deaths and strange resurrections among others) are legit.
     
  6. CeiranHarmony

    CeiranHarmony Jedi Master star 5

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    Code:
    http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/15753192-crucible
    spoilers en masse
     
  7. CeiranHarmony

    CeiranHarmony Jedi Master star 5

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    heard neither of both.. so tell me please
     
  8. Valin__Kenobi

    Valin__Kenobi Author: Tinker, Tailor, Soldier, Praji star 4 VIP

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    Welp, looks like my plan to reread everything after Bakura before this releases can be put out of its misery. [face_dunno]
     
  9. darthcaedus1138

    darthcaedus1138 Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    Can somebody message me some spoilers? Everything I've seen online has been incredibly vague so I can't understand what exactly does happen.
     
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  10. Nobody145

    Nobody145 Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    Here's hoping this doesn't turn out bad... I'm not expecting otherwise, but still, you never know.
     
  11. s65horsey

    s65horsey Otter-loving Former EUC Mod star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Troy Denning just posted on Facebook that the supposedly released spoilers are not true.

    "And so it begins -- readers contacting me to ask whether the crazy CRUCIBLE spoilers they've seen on theforce.net boards are legit. So far . . . nope, nope, and a BIG nope.

    Some important stuff happens, but not THAT.

    I have no idea where people are getting this stuff . . . certainly not from the book I wrote. And the page count is 302 (316 with the JJM KENOBI sample chapter at the end), not the 250 they have apparently listed."
     
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  12. Jedi Ben

    Jedi Ben Chosen One star 7

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    Then get onto the marketing dept at LFL, DR or whoever put that figure out and carpet them! This stuff is seriously undermining the book and, while I'm no fan of his work, Denning doesn't deserve it.

    If we're to going to roast him, then let's ensure we're doing so on an accurate basis.
     
  13. Havac

    Havac Former Moderator star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    The page count came off Amazon. We almost never get an accurate pagecount before release because the sources are so riddles with placeholders.
     
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  14. Jedi Ben

    Jedi Ben Chosen One star 7

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    Yeah, but it's in everyone's interest - i.e. DR, LFL, Amazon - for that to be accurate, it helps sell the book, well perhaps not if it starts off higher then drops, but you get the idea.

    You can only go on what info you can find, but I'd think the companies would have an interest in checking their Amazon listings, if only due to sheer number of expected sales via them.
     
  15. Reveen

    Reveen Jedi Knight star 3

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    Okay, I'm really interested in seeing these spoilers of Denning himself is going SO MUCH NOPE on them.

    And don't paperbacks and hardbacks have differing page counts?
     
  16. JediMara77

    JediMara77 Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    The spoilers might not be true, but that doesn't mean the book is any good. ;)
     
  17. Lane_Winree

    Lane_Winree Jedi Master star 4

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    I said this before in the last thread, but pretty much all of the particularly outlandish and wild "spoilers" that were posted weren't spoilers. At least, they weren't things that were present in the ARC I was reading.

    At best they were pet theories that were ripe to get Jossed. At worst they were outright fabrications.
     
  18. Jedifirefly5

    Jedifirefly5 Jedi Knight star 2

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  19. Jeff_Ferguson

    Jeff_Ferguson Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Hey, Columi and Mirta Gev. Cool.
     
  20. scotcat

    scotcat Jedi Youngling

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    True.

    If the book turns out to be bad, then we can roast over the pit. For the record, I'm not the biggest fan of his work, but I don't believe in prejudging based on speculation.
     
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  21. JackG

    JackG Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Mortis and Vestara?
    No thanks.
     
  22. Reveen

    Reveen Jedi Knight star 3

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    Well, I see Han Solo getting his ass kicked, I like that much. Go Mandos go!
     
  23. HEDGESMFG

    HEDGESMFG Jedi Master star 4

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    What role is
    Mortis
    playing?
     
  24. Force Smuggler

    Force Smuggler Force Ghost star 7

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    Remember the spoilers for Invincible? I was a lurker back then but in the week leading up to it Daala was revealed to COS, Isolder was killed by Jacen, Jaina killed Jacen, the Empire put that air-borne agent on Mandalore so that any Fett relation couldn't go there anymore, and we all thought it was fanon? Well that all was true... My expectations aren't high for this.
     
  25. Lane_Winree

    Lane_Winree Jedi Master star 4

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    The spoilers that showed up here for Invincible may have been right. Many of the spoilers about this book that have been discussed and passed around here are false.