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Lit CRUCIBLE by Troy Denning: The Official Discussion Thread (Spoilers Allowed)

Discussion in 'Literature' started by Havac, Jun 13, 2013.

  1. Reveen

    Reveen Jedi Knight star 3

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    Wait, live shots? What the hell, are Jedi not allowed get angry if someone tries to kill them?

    I remember a similar scenario in the Jedi Knight game where Rosh Penin (grr) sics a robot on you in an obstacle course, prompting Jaden to get POed and Kyle is just like "Dude, calm down."

    Not "How dare he not be cool with an escalation to deadly force dung an exercise! He's practically a sith already!"
     
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  2. Jedi Ben

    Jedi Ben Chosen One star 7

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    Precisely R, I have no answer to the insanity of it.
     
  3. Revanfan1

    Revanfan1 Force Ghost star 6

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    I don't know who wrote Jedi Academy, but I think he should've written this book. :p
     
  4. Slowpokeking

    Slowpokeking Jedi Master star 5

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    KJA.
     
  5. Revanfan1

    Revanfan1 Force Ghost star 6

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    Not the trilogy, the game. Or did KJA do that, too?
     
  6. Force Smuggler

    Force Smuggler Force Ghost star 7

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    I am operating on the assumption that they will eventually get to the comics from the books we have now but not seeing it happen now. I admit it is very plausible that they unite the Jedi Order and the GA later on but I want it to be under Luke and crew! That was their legacy to the galaxy! Let them enjoy it! I would prefer it never happened but nothing we can do there. I would not be surprised to see if Krayt shows up earlier in the book timeline and completely contradict the comics.
    They should have jumped 100 years after the NJO back in 05 and wrote books and comics and hinted to things that happened to the Big 3 and the next generation after the NJO.
     
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  7. LarryG

    LarryG Jedi Knight star 1

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    Not enough Sith? There are thousands of them and they are all menacing, even if they are not as skilled as Luke or even Jaina. Any one of them instead could have been used as typical villain fodder in this book, leaving Vestara the possibility of a future playmaker that could tip the balance either way. Being on the edge between two sides is what made her so compelling.
     
  8. Slowpokeking

    Slowpokeking Jedi Master star 5

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    That's the problem, and we know Krayt's time belongs to Legacy Era.
     
  9. JediMara77

    JediMara77 Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    What's your point? Vestara is nowhere near Luke or Jaina's power level, either.
     
  10. Jedi Ben

    Jedi Ben Chosen One star 7

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    See, I'm nowhere near that optimistic either!
     
  11. LivingJediDream

    LivingJediDream Jedi Master star 4

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    Am I the only one that wishes they would come up with a threat other than Sith?
     
  12. Darth Xalfrea

    Darth Xalfrea Jedi Master star 4

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    Considering people actually want Travvis back...

    Yep. Declaration of Worst EU Book ever in 3...2...1...
     
  13. Revanfan1

    Revanfan1 Force Ghost star 6

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    I wanted Traviss back from the time she left...
     
  14. Force Smuggler

    Force Smuggler Force Ghost star 7

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    The news of the ST ruined all of that. I'm still hoping we get more stories in the current EU but not holding my breath. I love Legacy so I hope they would keep with it but I guess it doesn't matter now.
     
  15. Ghost

    Ghost Chosen One star 7

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    Golden and Allston decided with Denning that this would be Vestara's fate... as a lesson that you can't redeem everyone.

    If it wasn't for the ST, I'd say they were setting Vestara up to be Ben's Lumiya as well as the main antagonist throughout his life.
     
  16. LivingJediDream

    LivingJediDream Jedi Master star 4

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    I thought Jacen died because you can't redeem everyone. I guess we need to get that point hammered over and over.
     
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  17. newdawn12

    newdawn12 Jedi Master star 4

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    In another parallel with his faher Ben has a half sister, from Paul Kemp's Riptide Grace, who Ben doesn't know about.
    of course with the ST, we may end the Post Rrrrrotj on a cliffhanger, unless Del Rey, and Dark Horse are planning a big event to close the current EU before the movies.
     
  18. LivingJediDream

    LivingJediDream Jedi Master star 4

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    I think if you want a satisfying conclusion to the existing EU, we have had a perfectly serviceable one for nearly ten years in The Unifying Force.
     
  19. JackG

    JackG Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    We can hope not.
     
  20. Reveen

    Reveen Jedi Knight star 3

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    Was this a story that really needed to be told? Was there a giant rash of dark side redemptions in the past few years that somehow escaped our notice?

    Further, why the hell did they think it's Star Wars to bring in a nature/nurture dichotomy and come up on the side of the former? I mean, the entire way they've been handling lightside/darkside stuff has had some pretty ugly connotations.
     
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  21. Todd the Jedi

    Todd the Jedi Mod and Soliloquist of SWTV star 6 Staff Member Manager

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    Eh, people'll get over it.
    To be fair, Denning created the character in the first place. At least he's trying to kill off his own characters before going back to killing off Zahn's other people's characters.
     
  22. newdawn12

    newdawn12 Jedi Master star 4

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    Who will Denning kill off in his next book?
     
  23. JackG

    JackG Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Not going to make the obvious joke there....tempted, but no.
     
  24. SHANEamazon

    SHANEamazon Jedi Youngling

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    As far as I know Billy Dee Williams hasn't been hired yet, so...........
     
  25. Chewbacca89

    Chewbacca89 Jedi Master star 5

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    Just got the book via Fedex. Thanks Troy! 7 pages in...