Lit CRUCIBLE by Troy Denning: The Official Discussion Thread (Spoilers Allowed)

Discussion in 'Literature' started by Havac, Jun 13, 2013.

  1. Reveen Jedi Grand Master

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    Wait, live shots? What the hell, are Jedi not allowed get angry if someone tries to kill them?

    I remember a similar scenario in the Jedi Knight game where Rosh Penin (grr) sics a robot on you in an obstacle course, prompting Jaden to get POed and Kyle is just like "Dude, calm down."

    Not "How dare he not be cool with an escalation to deadly force dung an exercise! He's practically a sith already!"
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  2. Jedi Ben Chosen One

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    Precisely R, I have no answer to the insanity of it.
  3. Revanfan1 Chosen One

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    I don't know who wrote Jedi Academy, but I think he should've written this book. :p
  4. Slowpokeking Jedi Grand Master

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    KJA.
  5. Revanfan1 Chosen One

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    Not the trilogy, the game. Or did KJA do that, too?
  6. Force Smuggler Chosen One

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    I am operating on the assumption that they will eventually get to the comics from the books we have now but not seeing it happen now. I admit it is very plausible that they unite the Jedi Order and the GA later on but I want it to be under Luke and crew! That was their legacy to the galaxy! Let them enjoy it! I would prefer it never happened but nothing we can do there. I would not be surprised to see if Krayt shows up earlier in the book timeline and completely contradict the comics.
    They should have jumped 100 years after the NJO back in 05 and wrote books and comics and hinted to things that happened to the Big 3 and the next generation after the NJO.
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  7. LarryG Jedi Master

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    Not enough Sith? There are thousands of them and they are all menacing, even if they are not as skilled as Luke or even Jaina. Any one of them instead could have been used as typical villain fodder in this book, leaving Vestara the possibility of a future playmaker that could tip the balance either way. Being on the edge between two sides is what made her so compelling.
  8. Slowpokeking Jedi Grand Master

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    That's the problem, and we know Krayt's time belongs to Legacy Era.
  9. JediMara77 Force Ghost

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    What's your point? Vestara is nowhere near Luke or Jaina's power level, either.
  10. Jedi Ben Chosen One

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    See, I'm nowhere near that optimistic either!
  11. LivingJediDream Jedi Grand Master

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    Am I the only one that wishes they would come up with a threat other than Sith?
  12. Darth Xalfrea Jedi Grand Master

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    Considering people actually want Travvis back...

    Yep. Declaration of Worst EU Book ever in 3...2...1...
  13. Revanfan1 Chosen One

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    I wanted Traviss back from the time she left...
  14. Force Smuggler Chosen One

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    The news of the ST ruined all of that. I'm still hoping we get more stories in the current EU but not holding my breath. I love Legacy so I hope they would keep with it but I guess it doesn't matter now.
  15. Ghost Chosen One

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    Golden and Allston decided with Denning that this would be Vestara's fate... as a lesson that you can't redeem everyone.

    If it wasn't for the ST, I'd say they were setting Vestara up to be Ben's Lumiya as well as the main antagonist throughout his life.
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  16. LivingJediDream Jedi Grand Master

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    I thought Jacen died because you can't redeem everyone. I guess we need to get that point hammered over and over.
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  17. newdawn12 Force Ghost

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    In another parallel with his faher Ben has a half sister, from Paul Kemp's Riptide Grace, who Ben doesn't know about.
    of course with the ST, we may end the Post Rrrrrotj on a cliffhanger, unless Del Rey, and Dark Horse are planning a big event to close the current EU before the movies.
  18. LivingJediDream Jedi Grand Master

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    I think if you want a satisfying conclusion to the existing EU, we have had a perfectly serviceable one for nearly ten years in The Unifying Force.
  19. JackG Force Ghost

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    We can hope not.
  20. Reveen Jedi Grand Master

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    Was this a story that really needed to be told? Was there a giant rash of dark side redemptions in the past few years that somehow escaped our notice?

    Further, why the hell did they think it's Star Wars to bring in a nature/nurture dichotomy and come up on the side of the former? I mean, the entire way they've been handling lightside/darkside stuff has had some pretty ugly connotations.
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  21. Todd the Jedi Mod and Sitcom Dad of SWTV

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    Eh, people'll get over it.
    To be fair, Denning created the character in the first place. At least he's trying to kill off his own characters before going back to killing off Zahn's other people's characters.
  22. newdawn12 Force Ghost

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    Who will Denning kill off in his next book?
  23. JackG Force Ghost

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    Not going to make the obvious joke there....tempted, but no.
  24. SHANEamazon Jedi Padawan

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    As far as I know Billy Dee Williams hasn't been hired yet, so...........
  25. Chewbacca89 Force Ghost

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    Just got the book via Fedex. Thanks Troy! 7 pages in...