Senate Cultural faux pas for 100, Alex

I get what you're going for.

But by singling out a specific article and making a new thread for it, you set expectations that this in particular is worth extended scrutiny, presumably over the related incident Ender brought up, even though his article was posted later.

Essentially, its how you presented the information that's making the situation look bad.

 

Juliet made a thread about people making cultural blunders while abroad and listed a legitimate example. She doesn't have to list all the examples, that's what opening the thread is for. Pointing out when Americans do it falls under the scope of the thread as intended.

It's really just the derp thread re-branded and focused on people making cultural mistakes while abroad. The example Juliet posted in the OP is just one example, and should have been taken as just one example. I understood it from the beginning, but Ender has a behavioral tic that he had to satisfy.

Juliet, you did nothing wrong, Ender just has jerky knees and got triggered.

 

Yeah, I see nothing wrong with the tread, aside from it being tagged senate (why?) and how it probably belongs in the derp thread. I don't think Juliet is being racist.

 

ok what is the derp thread ?

I mean I know the one you're refering to but when I had a look at it I didn't have a clue what it was about

 

Most of the time it's for posting the dumb **** politicians and other people say that is stupid beyond belief.

 

Please. You could find an example like that of people from anywhere in the world. Try a little harder there man.

 

I'm reluctant to criticise any other country when my own country-men the Brits tend to have a rather bad rep abroad , especially the youngsters who treat Europe as some sort of lager drinking tournament , then throw up in the streets while the girls flash their bits and frighten the animals .

and best not even mention our football fans .

 

The youth of Britain should be banned from travelling to Prague and Amsterdam.

 

I give the Posting Faux Pas in this thread a



Although there's an * in that just being an open bigot for the sake of it isn't really a faux pas. Kind of like the Nazi salute examples. Everybody was simply being a jerk with full intent.

 

No nation is without sin travelling. Brits, you've said what your guys do badly. I would never criticise Brits for being annoying drunk idiots on a plane, because that's something Australians do too often and as such, it would be hypocritical.

Like, I don't know, singling out one group for being ignorant of a local laws and culture when you're from a country (in)famous for being ignorant of local laws and customs. Like the fact that all tourists are being banned from getting too close to Roman

To underscore the point - an American did the same stupid thing the Chinese did, a week later. Because same same.

The hypocrisy and cultural ignorance is what I objected to. Firstly, that the Chinese were called out for behaving like Americans do, by Americans; and then, disbelief was expressed that a country whose second world war was exclusively about Imperial Japan should not have a Western, anglo-Centric view of the Nazis.

It's really simple. Hypocrisy is cancer, and there's hypocrites aplenty here. Promise you, if a German was objecting to fat Russians wearing skimpy bathers and hitting on young Thai girls, I'd say the same.

 

Go tell Mrs Fitzgerald.

 

She's banned.

 

An act which Texas Internet Human Rights Watch has decried often, as have Hooters girls and sorority sisters.

 

I'm sure there is a bigger picture around here, other threads, etc., that I am not aware off or getting; but I absolutely see Ender Sai's, point here about certain horrors of World War II not having much of an impact in some parts of the world.

But just like tax laws are extensive and change a lot, I don't think you can expect tourists to look up laws for countries they are going to. I think the responsibility should be with the travel company, or whomever is promoting the destination in the first place.

Eg. One of the places to visit is the famous Reichstag. Be warned that doing Nazi / Roman salutes are generally frowned upon, and could get you arrested.

Something like that.

 

tbf, they'd struggle to get traction with the American/Chinese audience. Americans generally seem to believe the world is basically Americanesque in culture and that it's an affront to ask them to adapt, and the Chinese have no time for things like local custom or even queuing. Having lived in a Chinese country, I can attest to the fact they give very little in ****s about the matters of decorum we would consider essential in public, unless their acts lost face.

And, as someone raised "British", I find the queuing point indefensible. A good, orderly queue is a thing of beauty. Russians do it with no trouble. Arabs will have one person queue and then everyone joins that person when they reach the front. Chinese just mill about with no discernable order of priority. Americans will queue but keep saying "excuse me" without their inside voice, asking security guards or officials if there's any way they, as important Americans, can go to the front.

The less that's said of French people in queues, the better:

 

Using the logic of the thread so far, I can now safely say that EVERY SINGLE AMERICAN takes the time to learn the customs of the country they intend to visit and is courteous in the queue.

And of course, the picture also proves everybody in Europe dresses like that. Dashing. My wig is already packed for the trip.

Also, it is kind of stupid to claim the tourists were unaware of the Third Reich. Did they just chance upon the salute? There is only way I can think of that they weren't just being complete jerks. And quite the stretch. The person that knew the history was explaining it to their tourist friend that didn't know. I guess you have to at least give some benefit of doubt, even if far fetched.

There's also the etiquette of the host citizen to consider.

 

Are you talking about when the American was rightfully punched by the German?

 

Sadly, with our education system, I actually can see an American not knowing what the Nazi salute is/why it's frowned upon in Germany. As in, the first place they might have seen it was a white nationalist at home and thought it'd be edgy to do it out in public. I'm glad they got punched in the face for it. There are people here who don't know why it's called World War TWO, as in yes, we had one before it. It makes me a little Enderish towards my fellow Americans.

 

Actually, it's World War, Too, and it is only the end of a title.

Officially, it's: There Were Many Bad Things in the Past; There Was Famine, Genocide, Slavery, Plague, Racism (not anymore), Depression, Persecution, and World War, Too.

That's the title for page two of world history textbooks. The first page is Jesus.


Despite this, people still don't know the difference between two, to and too.

 

they're the vilains in those Indiana Jones movies right ?

 

just talking from a purely graphic design perspective - the swastika is one of the greatest designs ever , it is so stark and graphic , simple . It is an interesting thing to draw , I remember drawing it at school , it has that rolling mechanical look to it .
I believe the Nazis appropriated the image anyway .

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Yeah, Britain went through the whole "swastikas are cool" stage, too.


I had a school friend who drew a swastika on his hand. In the middle of English class, the teacher stopped and yelled "6 MILLION DIED BECAUSE OF THAT. WASH IT OFF YOUR HAND. NOW"