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--Adm. Nick

 

What's so special about the Sullastan?

And on topic...Havac covered it. Actually, he kicked it's ***. So, just seconding him.

Although I like Jet Nebula.

 

Edit: is illiterate.

I agree with Havac when it comes to accusations of pet characters and Mary sue. I think it comes from people viewing a work as less legitimate than the films which belies the point of the EU?

 

It was a little jarring, but my theory is that is how he gets when he is alone with friends, temporarily dropping the frowny-face persona. After all, there has to be something more to him. Or perhaps that's how he used to be, prior to the mind wipe (would make sense, as he injured himself showing off as a padawan, and seemed the showboating and impetuous type), and as part of his trying to blend back in with the Jedi felt the need to put it on as an act.

 

She uses the term ten years before they get married:

The Last Command:

"Quite a view, isn't it," Luke commented, coming up beside her and gazing over the city. "Must bring back memories for you."
She threw him a patient look. "Translation: How am I feeling about the homecoming this time. You know, Skywalker - just between us - you're pretty pathetic when you try to be devious. If I were you, I'd give it up and just stick with that straight-out farm boy honesty."
"Sorry," he said. "Too much time spent around Han, I guess."
"And Karrde and me, I suppose?"
"You want a straight-out farm boy honest answer to that?"
She threw him a crooked smile. "I'm sorry I even brought it up."
Luke smiled back, then turned serious again. "So how are you feeling?"

 

I've thought the Vos love and Cade hate to be kind of amusing since to me they had similar arcs. A lot of *gasp* Is our hero character falling to the dark side? Maybe! stretched out for seemingly endless issues and arcs.

Though I am interested in rereading Vos' entire arc and trying to imagine that TCW voice.

I tend to think the backlash is silly, in any case. So authors have pet characters. Yeah, well, its lets them be developed, to become rounded. They're memorable because they get that chance at the hands of skilled writers.

But just as silly is the backlash to the backlash. Guess what, not everyone is going to like

I certainly don't. So what?

 

I-5 is a total self insertion

 

Who?

 

I-5YQ, a droid. It was a (terrible) joke.

 

It's impossible.

The Vos' Clone Wars voice and attitude don't quite match up with the comic version.

 

I agree that they should have chosen somebody with a bit more name recognition.

It would be interesting/terrible if Darth Krayt had been revealed to JAINA. Talk about "Holy Plot-Twist Batman!"

That is what's make it funny

Now image that all kiffar speak like that.

 

I'm actually fine with it being Hett. The only characters whose presence I didn't enjoy in Legacy were Tholme's girlfriend and The Sweet Hat (along with the person it sits upon - probably grew roots by this point). Those two added nothing to the story and their roles could have been fulfilled by anyone.

 

I thought I'd pop in and reply to a few points. When Jan and I did our first arc for SW. we thought it was only going to be that one arc. We chose to create a new character (Quinlan Vos) so as not to trip over the minefield that was and is SW continuity. At the time, there was no established team on the SW book. We made the case to DH that there should be, whether it was us or some other pairing (we of course thought it should be us). Having a regular team would help grow the readership, we felt. most comic books have a central character but using any of the Big Three at the time also had problems, we felt. You get constricted in how you can use and explore the character. So we had a central character in Quinlan Vos and surrounded him with his own supporting cast as well as working in established SW characters. We also wanted to use SW memes such as the allure of the Dark Sidew. With characters like Quin and, later, Cade, you didn't know how their story was going to end, unlike the established SW characters. That has narrative value. I wouldn't call Quin a "pet"; Villie, OTOH, yeah. For me anyway.<g>

making Jacen or Jaina into Darth Krayt wasn't in the cards; they were both in use at the time by the novelists. Same with the other Jedi such as Corran Horn. If they showed up in LEGACY, that means they survived the earlier books which reduces the tension in those books. Out of respect for our other creators, Jan and I opted not to do that. COULD they have been alive in the LEGACY era? Sure. We just didn't use them.

Having a central character tempted by the Dark Side is a SW meme and, yes, we used it often. Jan and I have felt that makes for a more interesting character and more story potential. If you look at my career, you'll see that I specialize in "gray" characters.

You may not agree with what we've done but there was solid reasoning behind what we did. Thought you should know.

-- John O

 

jfostrander01

For creating Gar Stazi, Gial Gahan, Jaius Yorub, Jhoram Bey, Anj Dahl, and the rest of the Legacy-era Galactic Alliance Remnant characters, I am forever in your debt! The best damned supporting "B" cast on the history of Star Wars comics, IMO.

--Adm. Nick

 

jfostrander01

I agree with AdmiralNick22 (the Stazi issues are still my favorite) but I have to add that I've enjoyed the Imperial Knights as well. Having heroic Imperials felt good. Having Hett as Darth Krayt also worked for me - T'ra Saa and K'Kruhk were the only ones that didn't work for me.

Oh and I enjoyed it Villie every time he showed up. He was fun.

 

John and Jan don't get enough for dropping in the Calixte bombshell on fans at the end of Legacy #18. Everyone was so focused on Hett's identity......

I don't really buy the pet character critique, tends to be invoked as a reason to dislike a character when if you dislike a character, well you dislike a character and that's that. It is unlikely, even if used by a different author, with a different style, that you'll cease disliking said character.

 

@jfostrander01

I just really, really hope Marvel asks you and Jan to do something for their Star Wars line! Star Wars comics just aren't the same without you two!

 

@jfostrander01 It just feel a bit insulting to Luke's order that those old order members survived and become the head of the new order while non of Luke's students or their descendant are really mentioned.

 

Ah, that's the reason I always assumed for the lack of any characters (or descendants of the characters) from the earlier NJO.

 

This! A Durron or a Horn would have worked way better imo.

 

But then lots of people would have complained that Durron or Horn sperm survived to create a descendant and that that spoils the story!

 

True but when Luke's order had been run into the ground by LOTF already...well, I just don't think that K'Kruhk is all that bad in retrospect.

In all seriousness, I would've been fine with the leaders of the Jedi in Legacy being all-new characters. It would've been a good way to compromise–you still have them as New Jedi Order members, but they also aren't related to the members we see in LOTF so it's not going to give away anything about what would happen in the novels, either. But honestly I never really had a problem with K'Kruhk being in Legacy.

 

Aside from Jysella and Valin we probably wouldn't see the Jedi baby in action in the books. Then again Denning had Allana as a soldier type in Apocalypse.
Who else has a kid? The Solos, Skywalkers, Calrissians and Horns I think? What is so wrong about the other Jedi having kids?