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Full Series Darksaber - Thoughts on this?

Discussion in 'Star Wars TV- Completed Shows' started by Erkan12, Dec 14, 2014.

  1. godisawesome

    godisawesome Skywalker Saga Undersheriff star 6 Staff Member Manager

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    So, the Rebels Recon preview shows that according to Mandalorian tradition, the Darksaber was constructed by a Mandalorian... When he joined the Jedi. It'd be interesting to hear if there's competing traditions less friendly towards the Jedi, but of there's not, it wouldn't surprise me. Mandalorians respecting the game of the Jedi when it comes to martial skills makes sense, even if guys like Pre-Viszla hate them otherwise.
     
  2. Vorax

    Vorax Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    It was constructed by a Jedi that happened to be a Madalorian by ethnicity, according to Rau. Pre used the word stolen, not liberated. So either there is a retcon occurring to make Mandalorians more sympathaitc to the audience and fix the problem of Sabine being friendly with Jedi, or as you said there is different versions of the story. Rau being just politically correct so to speak, cause he's allies with the Jedi. While Pre hated them and wanted to kill Jedi per the tradition of the blade's lore by him.
     
  3. Todd the Jedi

    Todd the Jedi Mod and Loving Tyrant of SWTV, Lit, & Collecting star 6 Staff Member Manager

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    Too bad we don't have a handy index filled with links to dozens of threads.






    Oh wait. :p
     
  4. Jedi Knight Fett

    Jedi Knight Fett Chosen One star 10

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  5. Darth Basin

    Darth Basin Jedi Master star 5

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    Wait this makes no sense? We know the Jedi take FS people/aliens as babies/toddlers. So why would this Jedi make a LS similar to a Mando blade? He grew up as a Jedi, not a Mando.
     
  6. Jedi Knight Fett

    Jedi Knight Fett Chosen One star 10

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    I don't think he made one similar to a Mando blade I think that the Jedi Mandalorian just made a unique lightsaber
     
  7. TheSilentInfluence

    TheSilentInfluence Retired Manager star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Yeah same. Most lightsabers have a unique design created by the holder. The darksaber is particularly unique in this regard.
     
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  8. Vorax

    Vorax Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    Judging from the portrait of Tar Vizsla he may of been an adult or young adult when he was inducted into the order, or someone more akin to Dooku's style who liked to wear the attire of his culture and birth. We don't know what age Tar was when he was wearing that armor nor the circumstances. Jedi of the Clone Wars liked wearing armor of the Clones, so maybe something similar back then. Jedi, Sith and Mandalorians all seem interwined like it was in the old canon/Legends apparently. He may of had a more traditional lightsaber prior to creating the darksaber as some Jedi we know go through more than one lightsaber and design.
     
  9. Jedi Knight Fett

    Jedi Knight Fett Chosen One star 10

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    I mean for once I was surprised about something. We all thought the darksaber was some evil Sith Saber or just a really old Jedi weapon. Yet it was a weapon created by a Mandalorian Jedi.
     
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  10. Darth Basin

    Darth Basin Jedi Master star 5

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    Where can I find a portrait of this wonderful sounding chap! (Tar)
     
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  11. Vorax

    Vorax Jedi Grand Master star 5

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  12. Darth Basin

    Darth Basin Jedi Master star 5

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    Kewl! Vorax

    The Mandolrian who became a Jedi. Hmmmmmmmmmm. He reminds me of a certain Jedi who wore a Mando mask!
     
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  13. Vorax

    Vorax Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    Who Revan? Am sure the similarity would not be lost on them and could very well be deliberate.
     
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  14. godisawesome

    godisawesome Skywalker Saga Undersheriff star 6 Staff Member Manager

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    It's entirely possible the Jedi's practice of rearing their members from childhood could be comparatively new in the face of thousands of years of history; they had to have learned the dangers someway. And who knows? Maybe Tar was active during the Jedi Sith War we know took place some time ago, when the doctrines of the Jedi were strained to the limit.
     
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  15. DavrelKex

    DavrelKex Jedi Knight star 2

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    I did not think we'd get so much detail on the saber's backstory. And man, what a backstory. so cool.
     
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  16. SensationalSean

    SensationalSean Jedi Master star 3

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    Glorious animation for a really cool story!
     
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  17. Palizinha

    Palizinha Jedi Master star 1

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    I don't think there is particularly a rule that Jedi can know nothing of the culture they came from, a lot of Jedi in the PT/TCW wear stuff of a culture they didn't grow up on. Maybe the guy originally had a normal lightsaber, but after getting acquainted with his Mandalorian ties as he grew up, he eventually made a lightsaber that was created with Mandalorian influence, and that was the Darksaber.

    Or, you know, the rules of only accepting to train really young kids is newer.
     
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  18. Ed_Fett_77

    Ed_Fett_77 Jedi Knight star 2

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    If there ever be movies in the times of tor,i wanna see the Story of Tar Viszla being told. Why would he join the Jedi Order? How do Mandos handle Force sensitives among them? Very interesting stuff..
     
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  19. Zejo the Jedi

    Zejo the Jedi Jedi Knight star 3

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    Darksaber is dope. I'm glad we're getting at least a little bit of the Old Republic lore.
     
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  20. DavrelKex

    DavrelKex Jedi Knight star 2

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    Not much to handle; just being force sensitive doesn't mean much other than having the potential to become a Jedi/Sith. Untrained they're just normal people. I doubt it would even be noticed.
     
  21. The Mirificus

    The Mirificus Jedi Knight star 2

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    Loved the inclusion of the backstory, and found it interesting that Fenn Rau described Tar Vizsla as "the first" Mandalorian Jedi, implying that there were others later on. I wonder if we'll get to know, in canon, what made things go south for Mando-Jedi relationships. Or, at least, Mando-clan Vizsla relations, as I don't get the impression that in nucanon, all Mandalorians are enemies of the Jedi.
     
  22. DavrelKex

    DavrelKex Jedi Knight star 2

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    Eh, I'm hoping it doesn't become a common thread. Part of what made the Mandalorians special and cool was that they were great warriors in their own right despite not being force wielders (as a whole). But they are just humans afterall, so I suppose it was inevitable that there would be a Jedi from Mandalore at some point.

    I'm sort of wondering if the Jedi keeping the Darksaber after Tar died was viewed as a cultural slight by the Mandalorians, and helped sparked all the wars between them and the Jedi.
     
  23. The Mirificus

    The Mirificus Jedi Knight star 2

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    I could see that as a factor, but I think a more secure root conflict would be if one or more of the Mandalorian warrior groups decided to conquer other worlds. It doesn't have to be the scale of SWTOR; really, any such behavior the Jedi would disapprove of. The core personality of the Mandalorian culture, seeking conflict and/or personal glory, isn't compatible with being a Jedi. I like the idea that Tar Vizsla may have been involved in a large scale Jedi-Sith conflict; against that background, the Jedi Order could appreciate more militant members. Or, perhaps he wasn't what we would view as a typical clan Vizsla member, or the clan became more extreme with the leadership of the man who stole the Darksaber back.
     
  24. DavrelKex

    DavrelKex Jedi Knight star 2

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    Well the conquering stuff we already know about; according to one of the resource books the Mandalorians launched a Crusade into the Mid-Rim and some point.

    As for the Viszla....it's just a name afterall, I can't imagine everyone in that family acted the same
     
  25. TheSilentInfluence

    TheSilentInfluence Retired Manager star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    There were a lot of Mandalorians who became Jedi. Or in the case of Mandalorian Knights from the Old Republic, former Jedi of the Order who swore allegiance to Mand'alor.

    http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Mandalorian_Knights
     
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