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PT Darth Maul's survival story. Sliced in half...what happens next?

Discussion in 'Prequel Trilogy' started by Darth Downunder, Nov 5, 2014.

  1. Erkan12

    Erkan12 Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Being non-canon does not make them disappear. They are still official Star Wars products, being angry to TCW just because the old EU become Legends / Non-canon is make no sense at all. TCW used many Legends products for the storyline, they could create an entire different EU, but they still used those works. Cursing to TCW just because of that is unfair.
     
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  2. zompusbite

    zompusbite Jedi Padawan star 1

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    Marco1907, have you read AotC novelization followed by Star Wars Clone Wars Comics and The Clone Wars novels, Labyrinth of Evil and RotS novelization, then finished with Dark Lord - The Rise of Darth Vader ? I did it. I don't care what is canon or not, what interest me is the quality of the script, the psychology of the characters and the consistencies between "these secondary works" and the main works (the 6 movies).
    Thank you for reading me.
     
  3. Erkan12

    Erkan12 Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Btw, as for Darth Maul's survival, starwars.com says this ;

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=Hlnec4Ka1Ds#t=150


    zompusbite

    Yes, I've read most of them. And I didn't see any big inconsistencies between EU works and TCW.
     
  4. SkywalkerJedi02

    SkywalkerJedi02 Jedi Knight star 1

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    Even though I agree that it's highly unlikely that Darth Maul lived I think he could of survived somehow.


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  5. The Supreme Chancellor

    The Supreme Chancellor Jedi Master star 4

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    zompusbite is 100% right. The quality of the work (which I admit is subjective) is much higher in the original CW EU. There are also massive inconsistencies. The most relevant I can think of is Anakin's experience's as a padawan in the war such as Jabiim, Ventress' twisted relationship with Obi-Wan, Dooku's crueulty towards Vos in his attempts to corrupt him. The characters we see in TCW are completely different from the much more real and complex one's we knew in the original EU.

    As far as Maul's survival, it's ridiculous. If your happy with that quote from sw.com as reasoning behind it, great for you. The real reason of course is "our show is so bland that we needed to bring in an established character we thought people would be interested in."
     
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  6. Force Smuggler

    Force Smuggler Force Ghost star 7

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    Savage was an excellent addition to the show but they soon made him second fiddle to Maul.
     
  7. zompusbite

    zompusbite Jedi Padawan star 1

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    And it will be the same for SWR. I know that in this world where audiovisual is King, it becomes difficult (very?) for a young man to be interested in comic books, not even to mention the novels, but it is not a reason. Myself, at one time, I was a "hysterical moviegoer" but I learned (literally) to read and love to read through works such as The Lord of the Rings, Harry Potter, and many others. GL could have made an adaptation of these comics and novels just like the Japanese do to their manga, while emphasizing some details of the war and the relationship between Obi-wan and Anakin. But ultimately he decided to show us a fairytale using the features of our favorite characters to better bait us and subsequently breaking our hopes.
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  8. Iron_lord

    Iron_lord Chosen One star 10

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    In Darth Maul: Son of Dathomir, Maul claims that Mother Talzin "sacrificed much of her power to resurrect me".

    Now - he could be speaking figuratively - of her curing of his madness. But if he's speaking literally - maybe he actually died in that pit on Naboo - only to be brought back to life again via her powers?
     
  9. Erkan12

    Erkan12 Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    I think she just fixed his head, in the last episode of Season 4, Talzin was removing black smokes from Mad Maul's head, which should be the dark side power of Maul, his dark side powers keep him alive but also made him crazy.
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    Then in the same episode Maul said these ; ''It has been soo long and my path has been soo dark. Darker than I ever dreamed it could be.''

    Maul also said to Sidious this

    ''-I am most impressed to see you have survived your injuries.
    -I used your training master.''

    Which means that Maul survived via his Sith training.
     
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  10. Iron_lord

    Iron_lord Chosen One star 10

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    Fair enough. "Resurrect" is figurative rather than literal then.
     
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  11. Randwulf Crescentmoon

    Randwulf Crescentmoon Jedi Master star 4

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    I enjoyed the addition of Savage to the show. Once the storyboard decided to go the route of reviving Maul I was of the assumption that Savage was being built up as an unstoppable juggernaut to possibly usurp Maul at a later date. Be that as it may, I don't know how I would have felt about that had it happened, as I was/am always a Darth Maul fan (the writer's send-off to his character in the Son of Dathomir comics was a much welcome deviation from the fate beheld by most/all other prequel characters).

    The writer's really had something there with him, though.
     
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  12. SkywalkerJedi02

    SkywalkerJedi02 Jedi Knight star 1

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    Maybe


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  13. ShaneP

    ShaneP Ex-Mod Officio star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Yeah I didn't understand that at all. Clancy Brown has a great powerful voice and frankly, I was more interested in his character when all was said and done than Maul's. And I'm a guy who thinks Lucas should've kept him alive. But Maul's return was a bit lackluster overall.
     
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  14. Force Smuggler

    Force Smuggler Force Ghost star 7

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    Savage as an apprentice to Dooku long term, Savage trying to get revenge on Obi-Wan for killing his brother, Obi-Wan and Savage working things out etc would have been more engaging imo.
     
  15. ShaneP

    ShaneP Ex-Mod Officio star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    It was more interesting when it was that way. Once Maul entered the picture, it was like one horned bad guy too many and Savage was reduced to huge-sidekick role.
     
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  16. Lulu Mars

    Lulu Mars Chosen One star 5

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    Not so much "reduced" as "denied more".

    I'm obviously in the minority here, but I like it as it is. The portrayal of Maul's return is great, IMO. His madness totally sells it for me. Sam Witwer did an amazing job voicing him.
     
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  17. Deputy Rick Grimes

    Deputy Rick Grimes Jedi Grand Master star 6

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    It's Star Wars

    Not supposed to make sense.
     
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  18. Lestatfol

    Lestatfol Jedi Youngling

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    When Darth Maul reappeared in TCW I couldn't believe it. I facepalmed really hard I skipped the whole arc and pretended nothing happened so I could sleep in peace. But it took a while to get those images of SpiderMaul out of my mind. I still have nightmares about it sometimes. Really , what were they thinking?!
     
  19. Seagoat

    Seagoat Former Manager star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Don't know if you deserve a medal or a face-trout for making me imagine the old Spider-Man theme except with Darth Maul. It's somehow both a nightmare and a soothing masterpiece
     
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  20. ShaneP

    ShaneP Ex-Mod Officio star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    The questions: does Disney do anything with Maul?

    I hope so. Great villain.
     
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  21. V-2

    V-2 Jedi Grand Master star 5

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  22. Arawn_Fenn

    Arawn_Fenn Chosen One star 7

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    Is that from Son of Dathomir?
     
  23. Rachel_In_Red

    Rachel_In_Red Jedi Master star 3

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    I love Darth Maul and think his duel with QGJ and OWK was (aesthetically) the best of the saga, but the idea of him somehow surviving TPM is just plain stupid.
     
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  24. Erkan12

    Erkan12 Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    No. It's from TCW Season 5 - Episode 16
     
  25. Big_Benn_Klingon

    Big_Benn_Klingon Jedi Master star 3

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    I just assumed some element of the force kept him alive, be that hate or midichlorian manipulation of the sort Darth Plageius was so interested in. To be honest Ive never been the keenest on the magic and mysticism element regarding the force. So to a certain extent it wasn't much of a stretch for me to assume and accept that some force mumbo-jumbo kept him from dying.. If I could accept Luke could talk to ghosts when I was a kid, the Maul thing wasn't really that difficult.

    I felt the same way. I thought his comeback was pretty silly, but once established I really liked the new, yet familiar character adding a really interesting element to the overall TCW storyline.
     
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