Lit Darth Vader: Dark Lord of the Sith #1-6: The Chosen One (5/6 Released)

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  1. StarWarsFan91 Jedi Master

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    I wonder how bleeding crystals started. I suspect early dark Jedi during the war needing a replacement weapon. Though if we see any 100 yr darkness content, it's better for most dark Jedi to stick to Jedi colors. Besides showing differences to Sith, still using same colors as the enemy can create beneficial confusion. Resorting to practically all red after the war and far away from Jedi crystals.
  2. Erkan12 Jedi Knight

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    I don't get this series... Marvel already had a series of ''Darth Vader''... What happened to it and why this series has the same name but starts at No.1 again ? ...o_O

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  3. Ancient Whills Jedi Grand Master

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    The first Darth Vader series is set between ANH and ESB, the second series is set just after Vader says "NO" in RotS, Vader:Year One basically. Though, I agree they should have handled it better by making it slightly different for clarity.
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  4. Jedi Ben Chosen One

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    If you're going to read Marvel Comics you need to be at ease with renumbering, for they can do it quite often.

    The way to navigate it is:
    • Darth Vader v1 #1-25 Gillen
    • Darth Vader v2 #1-? Soule
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  5. Erkan12 Jedi Knight

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    I mean is it too hard to add extra titles to these series ? Such as Darth Vader - Lord of the Sith , Darth Vader - Rise etc.

    They are just making things harder for the collectors.
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  7. Jedi Ben Chosen One

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    Agreed, but Marvel are notorious for this.

    And sure, D99's post shows they'll do a subtitle to set it apart the trades from the other Vader trades, but I doubt they'll also indicate the chronological order.

    The simple answer is: You're expected to know this stuff. Except no one can, it's why I update the releases thread, why I've a guidance 1138 article in my sig, none of this stuff is written down.
  8. BobaMatt TFN EU Staff

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    My one gripe: Anakin and Vader don't talk like each other. Some sort of transition would have been interesting to see.
  9. spicer Jedi Master

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    I hope we get to see this. The Dark Horse comics set during the same period covered that really well. To be fair though, only the first issue has been out, so we may get to see that in subsequent issues.
  10. BobaMatt TFN EU Staff

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    Yeah it's just weird that his entire personality changes between Mustafar and being put in the suit.
  11. spicer Jedi Master

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    We'll see how he's portrayed in the following issues. In the first one we see a lot of anger (he expresses his pleasure by murdering all of the people standing by his ship), which I find fitting for his character at the moment. But there's only so much space in a single issue. According to Soule's tweet, Vader will try to avoid introspection, but I'd expect that he'll "break" eventually. There are some brief moments of Vader dwelling on his past in Lords of the Sith and the first Vader series, which both take place well after ROTS. This series has the perfect opportunity to explore Vader's regret like no other before. Even the Dark Horse series set in this period didn't have this good of a chance for it, because they were either mini series (Darth Vader and..., Purge, and some issues weren't told from Vader's perspective) or they didn't focus on Vader much (Dark Times).
  12. StormTrooperPrecision Jedi Youngling

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    Can you tell me where I can watch/read the story of Maul killing 2 Jedi pre TPM?
  13. Vialco Jedi Grand Master

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    Anakin does talk like that in Clone Wars though. When he's very angry. And we know Vader is always angry. Listen to the stuff he was spouting on Mustafar, it's not that different from what he says in this comic.
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    I thought Clone Wars 2003 had the most Vader-esque Anakin.



    He even says "I have you now" ! Mat Lucas is a really underrated Anakin. That Hayden Christensen deadpan is spot on.
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  15. Jedi Ben Chosen One

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    I almost read that as Matt Lucas!
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  16. Vorax Jedi Master

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    Wait for it like the rest of the world when they decide to showcase how Maul & other Sith Lords of Bane's legacy acquired their own kyber crystals. Who knows, maybe Sidious and Maul just had to stealthy steal Jedi Lightsabers off of living Jedi Knights and not kill them yet. Sidious & Maul obviously built their own sabers and obtained their own kybers. I was of course postulating based on new data presented. They[the Sith] don't seem allowed to loot them from the dead, they have to be taken by force, not found and the crystals have be then corrupted by the Sith Lord's evil will and personality once in hand. And it would not be the first time if they ignored their own canon guide, as Darth Maul was responsible for killing other Jedi prior to TPM in now Legends( ex. Anoon Bondara, Siolo Ur Manka & Darsha Assant).

    "The saber of the Sith is not given, it is taken." That was the lesson Sidious taught Vader in this comic as they watched as Sidious had ordered all the Jedi lightsabers destroyed in front of Vader

    If what Sidious taught was indeed correct and irregardless its not just sending an expendable post Mustafar failed Vader on a trial to see if he's still worthy, it still means all Sith Lords(and presumably even Sith servant Dark Jedi Assassins/ Inquisitors) have to capture or kill Jedi for their own personal kybers. Seems such kybers arent random either, but have to be specifically special in trial by combat and death match survivalist stuff as part of the training to Sithhood. Maul has two, Sidious has two, Tyranus and Vader have one. Maul already had his crystals well after he was Sith Lord, cyborg Vader is already a Sith Lord but now needs to get a new personal kyber since his former Jedi one was lost and it belonged to "another"(Anakin and Vader are two separate people/characters to both Sidious and cyborg Vader and even to Kenobi).

    If not from taking them off random dead Jedi remains or fresh killed bodies , then how ? If they're not being able nor allowed to loot them from just any dead Jedi(Vader was not allowed any of the lightsabers of the dead Jedi on Coruscant even though he killed many and clones did others just prior), how if they are not found like younglings nor are they synthetic like the EU. Vader was not even allowed Yoda's lightsaber to corrupt, Sidious had that too destroyed. What is the explanation then.

    They do not seem allowed to just pass them down and Sith Lords have to kill other Sith to take their places. Did Sidious and Maul kill Plagueis together and divided up the spoilers? Did Plagueis have his own personal lightsaber using assassins that Sidious had to contend with when was an apprentice, we do not know. Was Malachor where all Sith Lords post Bane acquired their crystals off of dead Sith or dead Jedi. We need answers but are given bread crumbs. But so often the simplest answer is the correct one. Maul had his red ligthsaber before cyborg Vader. So how important is the red colored blade, Sith disciples are also sporting their own personal crimson blades(from Ventress to Savage to Vos to eventually the Inquisitors and then Kylo).

    Sith Lords Maul, Sidious, Plagueis and others may of killed Jedi as part of their own trials when they constructed their own lightsabers. As the bending to their will the taken Jedi kybers seems paramount no matter who, as any lightsaber would do. Although lightsabers, even red ones can be "healed" or even choose another. In canon they're more like Potter wands now. Even how Anakin's/Luke's lightsaber went to Rey instead of the weakened Kylo/Ben and he was a far more matured Force user than her supposedly. .
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  17. Iron_lord Force Ghost

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    Maybe Tyranus killed Sifo-Dyas to get the crystal he uses? With the story of how Sifo-Dyas died in the crash orchestrated by the Pykes - being misinformation - when the Pykes found Sifo-Dyas's body, the battle had already taken place?

    It does seem like that Jedi's death would be the most important one to the start of Dooku's career as Tyranus.
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  18. tatooinesandworm Jedi Knight

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    TLDR: because Sidious tells Vader he must kill and take the saber of a Jedi, the reader could assume all Sith Sabers are from their murdered Jedi victims. Maul has two blades = he killed two Jedi and corrupted their crystals.


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  19. ManWithoutAStar Jedi Knight

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    Nope, we see Sifo-Dyases lightsaber in Clone Wars.
  20. Iron_lord Force Ghost

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    The lightsaber, yes - but not necessarily the crystal. Did anyone ignite it onscreen?
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  21. ConservativeJedi321 Jedi Grand Master

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    Yes, Plo Koon did ignite it in the first scene of the episode.
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  22. Iron_lord Force Ghost

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    Fair enough. If he was a dual-wielder they'd probably have mentioned it.
  23. StarWarsFan91 Jedi Master

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  24. BigAl6ft6 Force Ghost

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    As for seeing Anakin in Vader, I think the first panel where Vader force-pushes Palpy against the wall and says "You told me you could save her!" felt very much like Anakin in that moment. And his final throwdown at the end of the issue was more Anakin as a Chosen One flashy take on all at once than the cold, calculated, singular moves of Vader. Also, heck, this arc is titled "Chosen One" so it feels to me very much like Anakin the suit as opposed to going full classic Darth Vader immediately afterwards.

    As for "If Sith have to kill a Jedi then why does Maul have a crystal even though the mini-series is his first time meeting a Jedi" question, there's probably a lot of answers in there. Personally, I would No Prize that Maul dropped a big anvil on a Jedi Master and Padawan from wayyyyyyy high up and snagged the crystals afterwards. That's not technically meeting a Jedi, it's just dropping an anvil on them and stealing the crystals.
  25. Revanfan1 Force Ghost

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    But we know the Jedi that Maul meets in the current Darth Maul comic is supposed to be his first Jedi target, right? And he already has his lightsaber at this point. I'm going to assume Sith can corrupt any crystal, and Sidious is feeding Vader a line.