Lit Darth Vader: Dark Lord of the Sith #1-X (3/X Released)

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  1. Taalcon Force Ghost

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    That is the important point. Padme does have reason and will to live. She insists there's still good in Anakin, she just gave birth to twins, she has absolute reason to live. It's weird. I get the likely intended poetic idea of dying of a broken heart/spirit, but, well, it's all weird and, in my opinion, a bit lacking in how it was depicted.

    Yet another reason for there to be more Padme narrative material from her perspective.
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  2. Maythe14thBeWithYou Jedi Knight

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    A Padme-centric novel by Claudia Gray could do a lot in that regard.
  3. Barriss_Coffee Chosen One

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    THIS. She was amazing with Leia, and is great at writing stories with massive implications that can be extended into other stories. She'd be able to write a Padme story with elements that could be continued in other stories, not just "we need a Padme story for a sake of a Padme story." Plus I'd love to see how she juxtaposes the Republic politics with what she developed in the post-ROTJ era.
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  4. Valryk Jedi Padawan

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    It should be set during EPIII. I don't think I can take any more romance from EP2. I read the novelization of it and despite her getting more development it does go downhill whenever the writer had to include the scenes from the movie. Anakin is handled well too when he's not talking on dates about his totalitarian wetdream. R.A. Salvatore made him struggle a bit with being socially awkward due to spending too much time on training.

    ''Stop looking at me like that.''
    ''Why?''

    /shudder
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  5. Taalcon Force Ghost

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    I think Salvatore doesn't get enough credit for what he did with the E2 novelization. He is (understandably) upstaged by Stover, but I think AOTC the book also serves to elevate the film, and give actual plausibility to Padme's side of the Padme/Anakin relationship. Which, frankly, is a massive feat.
  6. Maythe14thBeWithYou Jedi Knight

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    Okay this a little OT, (related to DV vol. 1) but does issue #6 when Vader finds out Luke is son through Boba contradict the films? I was watching a video if Star Wars Theory last night & it came up as a question at end. Also, if the comics are dealing w/these issues can we expect DV vol. 2 tp help w/these issues as w/Padme?
  7. vong333 Jedi Master

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    Taalcon- you hit a good note there. I always thought the same thing. The AOTC movie novelization actually told a better story than the actual movie. Stover's book was very good and in many ways it was better than the movie. In fact, all the prequel movie novelizations told in my opinion a better tight cohesive, believable story than the what put on film. The prequels were a lot more epic in novelization, and much more truncated in film. Maybe the reliance of too much reliance with digital technology and trying to fit the hourly time frame so that you can have a bigger turnover in the movies, each movie could have benefited from an extra 10-20 minutes of film that went into further detail of various issues.
  8. Darth_Voider Jedi Grand Master

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    No, it doesn't contradict anything.
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  9. Maythe14thBeWithYou Jedi Knight

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    I agree, I think CG did a great job w/BL in providing MUCH needed background on the First Order. I didn't expect it in TFA so think it was done well.
  10. Darkslayer Force Ghost

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    Really excited for this.
  11. Contessa Jedi Master

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    Mixed feelings on this one. I'm not down for a half-assed retread of Purge and Dark Times but CANON! now. Been there with Dark Disciple, and I don't want that again. And I'm also not stoked for something that overrides those series either, regardless of canon. Just doesn't appeal to me. But if they can walk that middle line and give me a new story that's good, I'm game.
  12. spicer Jedi Master

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    I hope the Marvel folks on this forum read your post and seriously consider it.
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    I have a lot more faith in Soule than most of the current slate of comic writers. Even his B effort, Poe, is at least treading new ground, so while his Vader might have some superficial similarities with Legends stuff, I imagine he'll really make it his own thing and deliver something we all can appreciate.
  14. Barriss_Coffee Chosen One

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    One way to avoid the problem with Purge (i.e. it was essentially the same plot over and over again) is to give Vader a long-term Jedi nemesis that lasted more than one story. Someone who disobeyed Obi-Wan's order to hide and became a real thorn in Vader's side for a while. Not like Kanan and Ezra, who didn't emerge until closely before ANH and then tried to avoid Vader; rather, someone immediately after ROTS who lasted a year or a few and kept pestering Vader.

    Perhaps this series will do that; I don't know. It would really make a great FPS as well... something like TFU but more believable and less of that silly father/son schtick they were using (that always felt wrong to me somehow). More of Vader as a one-man army with a twisted sense of justice, like Batman stalking the streets.
  15. spicer Jedi Master

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    I can see why one may perceive Last Stand of the Jedi, Seconds to Die and The Hidden Blade as three different versions of more or less the exact same story, but The Tyrant's Fist was a fresh perspective on the "Vader hunting surviving Jedi" part.
    Dass Jennir, Jax Pavan (you know which one), and I'm not 100% as I haven't read The Last of the Jedi, but I believe Ferus Olin is another example of that? I actually expect this new series to give us such a Jedi character, but my point is, it wouldn't be anything new. If Marvel does give us such a character, I just hope they don't make him the new Jax Pavan, where he or she meets Vader face to face several times and somehow manages to escape. To me that is the worst thing about the Coruscant Nights books. At least in Dark Times Jennir never encountered Vader.
  16. darthzac14 Jedi Knight

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    That sounds like something Marvel could eventually spinoff into a new series based on an original character, similar to Aphra. But with a Jedi I suppose they would go back perhaps to the gap between TPM and AOTC or even fresh eyes on the Clone Wars.
  17. spicer Jedi Master

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    As long as it's an interesting character, I certainly wouldn't mind.
  18. darthzac14 Jedi Knight

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    Oh definitely. I'm sure Marvel didn't intend on spinning Aphra off in February 2015. It took time for us as fans to get to know her and come to love her
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  19. Barriss_Coffee Chosen One

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    Hmmm I that's not what I'm talking about. I'm saying a nemesis. Someone plotting against Vader. Dass, Jax, and Ferus were never threats, and most of the time they were off performing side shenanigans. Those stories also weren't from Vader's POV. I'm talking about a Vader story where he's up against a powerful Jedi. For a semi-extended period of time. Preferably a named Jedi (truth be told, Mace's former padawan Depa would have been perfect for this; someone seriously dangerous).

    And dear god not Shaak Ti. Again.
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  20. vncredleader Jedi Master

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    Vader was against powerful Jedi they just did not last long cause they faced him directly like the Dark Woman. That was from Vader's pov right?
  21. Ulicus Lit'ari

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    They're saving that story for the Mace Windu spin-offs.
  22. bsmith7174 Jedi Knight

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    Question for people who are more familiar with how Marvel handles their numbering/resets/etc

    If the new Darth Vader series has an Annual issue, would that be Darth Vader Annual 1 or 2?


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  23. Revanfan1 Force Ghost

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    So much this. Please no. Spare the poor lady further deaths. "Dead in the Jedi Temple" is fine by me; it spares her more suffering.

    Actually, I'd be totally up for it if it were Yaddle. :p
  24. ConservativeJedi321 Jedi Master

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    Anyone thinking Coleman Kcaj?
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    I mean, he's one of the few council members who was never, and I mean never, accounted for?
    I liked the idea of him falling in the temple in my head canon. But I'm good with him being sent on a mission in the days before Operation Knightfall and somehow being one of the few survivors, at least for a few weeks or months after ROTS. Really gives them a chance to develop this seriously underdeveloped character.[face_thinking]
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  25. Barriss_Coffee Chosen One

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    *sigh* That's also not what I said.

    I said I would like the authors to have a Vader story, in which he's pitted against a Jedi nemesis that continues to pester him for a long time, about a year or few. Not some side character who barely had anything ever to do with Vader like Jass. Not someone who lasted 5 seconds like the million Purge books. I want a long-term opponent for Vader. Like what Batman has (well, if Batman was seriously a bad guy).

    And I really don't care if they go crazy or dark in the end. Vader's gotta win after all. But it would be SO cool to have Vader match wits/forces against a recurring nemesis. His victory would be that much sweeter in the end.
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