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Comics Darth Vader: Dark Lord of the Sith #13-18: Burning Seas (6/6 Released)

Discussion in 'Literature' started by Ancient Whills, Mar 9, 2018.

  1. mattman8907

    mattman8907 Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    this arc is going to be amazing.
     
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  2. Sinrebirth

    Sinrebirth Mod-Emperor of the EUC, Lit, RPF and SWC star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    If this is Vos, I’ll be pretty pleased as that’s a One Canon loose end tied.


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  3. spicer

    spicer Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    I'm equally excited and terrified of the prospect that the Jedi might be Vos. Excited because Quinlan is one of my favourite characters, and terrified because I don't think he was handled well in the new canon.
     
  4. AdmiralNick22

    AdmiralNick22 Retired Fleet Admiral star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Hmm, so it sounds like Mon Cala is conquered really early on in the new canon, just a year or so post-ROTS. That means that Raddus and the exodus of city ships presumably doesn't happen until much later, as the Mon Cala city ships being converted occurs between Rebels and RO.

    So we have the following major events on Mon Cala between ROTS and TESB:
    • Imperial occupation (18 BBY, +/-)
    • City ship exodus (4-2 BBY, +/-)
    • Mon Cala rebel uprising (1 ABY, +/-)
    Some big gaps, but obviously the Mon Cala weren't emboldened to rise up again until the Rebellion was formed. I'm excited to see how this all unfolds!

    --Adm. Nick
     
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  5. HeatherAntos

    HeatherAntos Marvel Comics Assistant Editor VIP

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    This was my favorite arc to work on in the series, hands down. Just you wait.
     
  6. AdmiralNick22

    AdmiralNick22 Retired Fleet Admiral star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Oh man... I'm so excited for his! These two Mon Cala arcs are basically tailor made for me. :D

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  7. Vialco

    Vialco Force Ghost star 5

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    Fingers crossed for another epic lightsaber battle between Vader and Unknown Jedi Master. Maybe we'll even get to see the Inquisitors get schooled first.
     
  8. Yunzabit

    Yunzabit Jedi Master star 4

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    No, Vos rocked in nu-canon. He was able to defeat Dooku in a lightsaber duel putting him above Obi-Wan in dueling abilities. After Anakin, Mace, Yoda and Kit Fisto, he was probably one of the most powerful Jedi. Having Vader beat him will cement Vader's skill as being above Dooku.
     
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  9. Coherent Axe

    Coherent Axe Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Vos was far more interesting in Legends than just an arbitrary power level.
     
  10. Anslyder

    Anslyder Jedi Padawan star 1

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    He was painfully incompetent in Dark Disciple which is why I hope it's his chance to be handled well.

    Though, I don't want it to happen at the expense of Vader like what they did to him in Legends.
     
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  11. Sinrebirth

    Sinrebirth Mod-Emperor of the EUC, Lit, RPF and SWC star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    Vos as a potential Sith candidate is much more interesting. The original arc was more slavishly tied to the concept of there literally only being two Sith at a time, which I did not necessarily care for.

    Six Sith running around during the Clone Wars is much more fun.


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  12. Ithorians

    Ithorians Jedi Master star 4

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    Oh well, Vader Down already did that quite clearly, didn´t it? ;)
     
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  13. AdmiralNick22

    AdmiralNick22 Retired Fleet Admiral star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    I'm gonna sticky this thread. We're (the Mods) slacking on keeping up with this and changing titles... we're trying to get back on track with this. :)

    --Adm. Nick
     
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  14. Vialco

    Vialco Force Ghost star 5

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    I'm in the minority here, clearly, but I never liked Legends Vos. He always seemed to have one foot outside of the Jedi Order and the decision to leave didn't seem very hard for him. He was also very gullible and got strung along like a fish by Tyranus and Sidious. I also didn't buy the romance between him and Khaleen, mostly because she was never fully fleshed out. Ventress on the other hand was a perfect match for Quin. Say what you will about his initial characterization, but Canon Vos came closer to finding out Sidious's identity than Legends Vos ever did. Plus his Juyo attacks overwhelmed the renowned Count and knocked the best duelist the Jedi Order ever produced on his backside. Canon Vos was far stronger with the Dark Side than Legends Vos ever got.

    Plus Canon Vos's ebullience was a nice contrast to his later fall. Legends Vos strayed into the Dark but never really fell.
     
  15. themoth

    themoth Force Ghost star 5

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    It doesn’t get much better than this. I really want to know who this mysterious Jedi is.
     
  16. MrDarth0

    MrDarth0 Jedi Master star 4

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    Well, we do know the original intention was for the Mon Cala to be conquered in 16 BBY, but we ended up with this one year post-ROTS retcon. Which really bothers me. More than it should.
     
  17. AdmiralNick22

    AdmiralNick22 Retired Fleet Admiral star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Yeah, I'm kinda confused why they made this change. It doesn't really make that much sense, IMO.

    --Adm. Nick
     
  18. MrDarth0

    MrDarth0 Jedi Master star 4

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    They did it because 16 BBY created a continuity error with the Ahsoka novel, which is happening during 18 BBY and one of the Inquisitors that is in the comic is killed in that novel, therefore he wouldn't be able to be present at Mon Cala.

    Personally, I think they should have retconed the Inquisitor, instead of the date.
     
  19. AdmiralNick22

    AdmiralNick22 Retired Fleet Admiral star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Ah... that explains it. Yeah, seems easier to retcon the Inquisitor, but oh well.

    --Adm. Nick
     
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  20. The Positive Fan

    The Positive Fan Force Ghost star 4

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    They would have had to alter the artwork - that individual had been identified as the Sixth Brother in a previous issue. Adjusting the opening crawl and Palpatine's dialog was almost certainly the path of least resistance.
     
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  21. MrDarth0

    MrDarth0 Jedi Master star 4

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    Or they could have said that the Inquisitor in the Ahoska novel wasn't the 6th Brother, but some other number that we haven't seen yet.

    Why nobody thought about retconning the novel instead of retconning the comic?
     
  22. vong333

    vong333 Force Ghost star 5

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    This is so true. I enjoyed the Dark Disciple novel for that very reason.
     
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  23. Sinrebirth

    Sinrebirth Mod-Emperor of the EUC, Lit, RPF and SWC star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    Or that they renumbered the Inquisitors, etc.


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  24. SilentGuy66

    SilentGuy66 Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    They could have retconned the Ahsoka novel and have it that the Sixth brother was seriously injured instead of killed.
     
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  25. Ithorians

    Ithorians Jedi Master star 4

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    They put themselves on a tight spot by killing the Sixth Brother so close to 19 BBY. In the light of using him on another media, I mean. Everything about Inquisitors and dark siders in general has been treated in canon like a hot potato; nobody wants to hold it for too long. Rebels is a good example: killing every Inquisitor after one season (8th Brother´s case was pretty extreme at that), or bringing Maul back and then say "but we must avoid him interacting with basically everyone in the galaxy, since he can´t have an impact on this era"... they are treading carefully because of Legends, I imagine, where after a while Imperial darksiders seemed to number up to hundreds and hundreds.

    I do think it´s pretty good for them to try and show us a little more about the Sixth Brother, because this is likely the only media were are going to have the chance, and didn´t like the idea to skip 3 years in the comic, where a lot more could be shown. Still, I have confidence in the writers and the Storygroup, I think they can turn this mistake around and actually make some very interesting stuff out of it!
     
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