Darth Vader's Attempt to bring Skywalker to the Darkside, How would you have done it? part I

For all of us fans out there that Love the "Empire Strikes Back"

Would you have Exploded the secret?

"No, I am your Father!" - DV, ESB

or how would you have tempted Luke?

The Same way?
or what? please list your opinion.

 

Hey, cool idea!

If I was Vader, I would have told Luke before the fight even started. Luke would have been cornered. There was no way out.

 

Hmm... Interesting thread.


I would have showed him the power of the dark side. I would have "disarmed" him (heh heh), much like Vader did, and then I would have showed him all the "good" that the dark side could be used for.


Basically, I'd go with a mix of Vader's conversion methods and Palpatine's. Sheer overpowering and very sneeky deceit.

 

If I were Vader, I would have disarmed him early, and prevent him from escaping.... then start to tempt him towards the Dark Side.

 

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I definitely wouldn't have hit him with the big 'I am your father' line like that. More time spent getting to the kid, in a similar scheming way that Palpatine would use, before telling him that.

 

I would have tortured and killed his friends in front of him

 

Well, Vader did try that. Luke's friends just happened to escape.

 

I would have bitch-slapped his arse to the ground, chopped off most his limbs and forced him to live his life as a half-man, half-robot. Hey, it worked for Vader.

Or he could have enraged Luke by telling him his mum was a whore and put out after knowing his father for like a day.

Come to think of it, Vader was crap!

 

Vader was at a serious disavantage because Luke already hated him. I'm not sure Vader could've done anything different. Remember, Luke went on the offensive first. Vader didn't have a lot of time to use psychology on Luke. So, Vader just toyed with him in an attempt to show his power. When that didn't work, Vader used a lot more aggression and beat down Luke. It was now or never at that point when Luke was on the ledge. That's another reason Palpatine told Vader that they would both have work together to turn Luke. Luke survived the temptation from Vader. It would now take a combined effort of power and persuasion to get Luke to turn.

 

Everything about Vader is perfect just the way it is.

Seriously - I think Vader did do things perfectly. Like Salty said, Luke already hated Vader, so he wouldn't have gained anything by torturing Luke more or killing Han and Leia. Springing the revelation on Luke as soon as possible worked to Vader's advantage. He waited until Luke was physically broken, then broke him psychologically as well.

The only thing Vader could have done better was trap Luke in a small room or something instead of on a gantry he could jump off of.

 

I think Vader did good on the father thing.
The only thing i woud've done differently
is i would've cornered him first in stead of a little platform with a big hole he could jumpo into.

 

Let's not forget that Vader didn't have the knowledge we have.


He never thought Luke would jump.


Seriously, would you have? I think I'd overlook something like that, myself. Course naturally I would have cornered him in a small room where there was NOWHERE to go... Where he was closed in on ALL sides. But I still wouldn't have considered the actual jump.

 

I would have told him that Obi-Wan was the reason why his father was dead. That would have turned Luke against both Yoda and Obi-Wan, and left Luke wide open. If Luke believed that Obi-Wan had killed his father in some way, Luke would have never trusted Obi-Wan or Yoda again.

 

I would have done this.

'No Luke, I am your brother!'

'No...No...Thats impossible!'

'Search your feelings you know it to be true.'

 

If Vader had told Luke Obi-Wan was the one who killed Anakin, he might have succeeded in turning Luke against the Jedi, but he wouldn't have been any closer to gaining Luke's trust. Vader needed to exploit the connection between Luke and himself.

 

It was very smart of Vader to shock Luke with that news. It made Luke very unstable at that moment, but he had the proof in his feelings.
And Vader almost succeeded with "we shall rule as father and son" only Palpatine ruinded it when he teased Luke to let his feelings go, and so reminded him that that was exactly what he wanted. Had he shut up, Luke would surely have joined his Daddy. And I further think they together could have succeeded Palpatine. Well, they did acutally kill him together, but Ani wasn't in any mood or shape to take the vacant position anymore... what a pity...

 

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I know theres nothing wrong with the way Vader did his attempted temption of Skywalker, Luke Skywalker.

UP!,UP!,UP!!!!!

 

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DLM Edit: There's no need for multiple ups per day.

 

The benevolent and wise moderater Mara is right too many UP!'s make me throw UP!, and sometimes I suck up...

Seriously all corny and dumb jokes aside that's a big fat loaf of SPAM - and to think your a older member than me.

Tsk tsk.

Vader should have tryed to appeal to Luke by pretending to join him then warp his mind from the "Goodside". It would've worked.

<[-]> Saber

 

I think that is pretty good, but I also like having too many ups is a bad thing too, even though I caused them.

 

I feel Darth Vader went about it the right way. Beat Luke down a bit then simply tell him. Get him to feel powerless against the dark side and then tell him what Ben Kenobi tap danced around. Had he told Luke in the begining of their contest on Cloud City, Luke wouldn't have bought it. Only when Vader has beaten him down to a bloody pulp, filled him with fear, would Luke go for it. If done this way, Luke would have felt more acceptable to the dark side of the Force.