Discussion Death Star and Superweapons

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Force Awakens - Spoilers Allowed' started by LottDodd, Nov 2, 2013.

  1. LottDodd Force Ghost

    Member Since:
    Oct 4, 2002
    star 4
    Although my thought process has generally been devoted to weather Palpatine and the Sith have survived, lately I have been thinking about the Technological Terror known as the Death Star, and wondering what its role may be in the sequel trilogy. Death Stars have been a feature in four of the six movies thus far... And I don't believe we have seen the last of them (or at least not the end of their planet shattering technology).
    Star Wars is a modern myth and the Death Star represents the modern exestentionalism of Nuclear War. I do not think this is about to be dropped from the narrative at the midpoint. I don't believe it will be dealt with in the same way as the OT... After all the nature of nuclear threat has changed in our era. I believe it will deal with proliferation and miniaturization of the tech... Everybody has there hands on cheep, dirty bomb style, planet destroyers.... And
    he tech is in the hands of hutts, terrorists, or other undesirables....
    sarlaccsaurs-rex and Iron_lord like this.
  2. sethg Pulled Pork Sandwich/E7 Manager

    Manager
    Member Since:
    Sep 3, 2012
    star 2
    I sincerely hope it has no role in the new trilogy. It was bad enough that they recycled the concept for ROTJ.
  3. markdeez33 Jedi Grand Master

    Member Since:
    Jan 25, 2013
    star 3
    I think we've seen enough of The Death Star, but I wouldn't be surprised if it came back. It'd look pretty damn good with all of the CGI capabilities, these days.

    I can do without it, though.

    If anything, I'd rather see another giant space weapon, as opposed to the Death Star.
  4. Mr. K Moderator Emeritus

    Member Since:
    Oct 23, 1999
    star 5
    No more Death Stars, PLZ!!!
    DARTHVENGERDARTHSEAR likes this.
  5. Sum-Wan Jedi Grand Master

    Member Since:
    Feb 16, 2013
    star 3
    The bad guys of the sequel trilogy will rip off the concept of the Death Star and build a new technological terror called "The Grim Reaper Moon"
    Last edited by Sum-Wan, Nov 2, 2013
  6. JediGirl_Angelina Force Ghost

    Member Since:
    Jan 12, 2003
    star 3
    I seriously hope we won't see any. But that doesn't mean there will be no other sources of danger in the ST.
    Dak Oolron and black_saber like this.
  7. Grand_Moff_Jawa Chosen One

    Member Since:
    May 31, 2001
    star 5
    The ragtag band of the Empire decides to build yet a third Death Star, but with no ventilation shaft or accessible superstructure. Since the nuclear exhaust can't escape, they all die on the station, making it literally a Death Star.

    How's that sound?

    Seriously though, no more DS's.
  8. Darth PJ Force Ghost

    Member Since:
    Jul 31, 2013
    star 4
    I can seriously see JJ wanting to use it...
    LunarMoth likes this.
  9. Buddha Fett Chosen One

    Member Since:
    Dec 18, 1999
    star 4
    Perhaps the Alliance will build a Happy Fun Star that shoots rainbows and gold coins at the poor and destitute outer-rim planets.
  10. The Hellhammer Grand Judicator of the New Film Territories

    Moderator
    Member Since:
    Nov 4, 2012
    star 5
    Yeah, no Death Stars in any way, shape or form.
  11. Lord TW Jedi Grand Master

    Member Since:
    Dec 25, 2012
    star 2
    The new DS will be powered by strange red matter that creates a black hole when the new republic destroys it, sucking in everything around it, except our heroes, who narrowly escape.
    Dak Oolron likes this.
  12. purplerain Force Ghost

    Member Since:
    Sep 14, 2013
    star 4
    I'm not sure how relevant the Death Star is to a post-Cold War world. Nonetheless, I'm sure Michael Bay loves Death Stars.
  13. Echo-07 Force Ghost

    Member Since:
    Nov 9, 2012
    star 4
    Yeah, I'm against resurrections and this includes the Death Star. Cool concept but it's had its place in history. Let's move on to new stuff. With that I think we'll have to bear a resurrection of sorts with Palpatine as a Force Ghost, which I can live with so long as he isn't corporeal.
  14. Mr. K Moderator Emeritus

    Member Since:
    Oct 23, 1999
    star 5
    JJ sure likes to have sequences escaping gravity wells, doesn't he?
    Dak Oolron likes this.
  15. Mr. K Moderator Emeritus

    Member Since:
    Oct 23, 1999
    star 5
    I'd be far happier seeing Ian McDiarmid being involved again- in any form- than another Death Star.
  16. I Are The Internets Chosen One

    Member Since:
    Nov 20, 2012
    star 7
    How about a Life Sun that regurgitates planets and moons and ships?
    Pax Sithus, Bob Octa and Darkslayer like this.
  17. SkywalkerSquadron Jedi Grand Master

    Member Since:
    Feb 2, 2013
    star 4
    I'd rather not see a new Death Star. Seeing two in the films is enough. Another Death Star would be reusing the idea way too many times.
    DARTHVENGERDARTHSEAR likes this.
  18. DantheJedi Force Ghost

    Member Since:
    Aug 23, 2009
    star 5
    How about some big mama-jamma starship just bristling with weapons, like the Malevolence from TCW?
  19. Granger Jedi Grand Master

    Member Since:
    Nov 1, 2012
    star 1
    I think in the ST the galaxy should be fragmented and every third rate planet should have or be trying to build a Death Star.
    purplerain likes this.
  20. Immortiss Force Ghost

    Member Since:
    Mar 10, 2013
    star 4
    The ST needs to be ethreal, not material.

    The Death Star personifies Palpatine's philosophy of power and it's defeat. Realpolitck. Faith in the material. Vader was right about that technological terror and the Force. Insignificant. Now I want to see how the Dark Side show us why the ability to destroy a planet is insignificant.

    I think Plagueis might be able to deliver.[face_devil]
  21. Rox Administrator Emeritus

    Member Since:
    Nov 24, 2000
    star 6
    The Death Star has been done to death [face_dancing] Seriously if you are going to go for the super weapon angle again come up with something else or borrow the sun crusher from the EU. I'm personally hoping the bad guy(s) don't have a super weapon at all and it's about the people.
    Last edited by Rox, Nov 3, 2013
    DARTHVENGERDARTHSEAR likes this.
  22. Immortiss Force Ghost

    Member Since:
    Mar 10, 2013
    star 4
    If the Death Star was a large planetary threat, the writer should go for a small molecular threat (virus).
  23. purplerain Force Ghost

    Member Since:
    Sep 14, 2013
    star 4
    Palps never struck me that way. To him, Death Stars are disposable.
    Last edited by purplerain, Nov 3, 2013
    Pax Sithus likes this.
  24. Immortiss Force Ghost

    Member Since:
    Mar 10, 2013
    star 4
    He always seemed to be interested in material power, nothing more. A politician or Machiavellian, whose interests were always practical and secular. A Sith who was overconfident in the end.

    I've often speculated that Darth Vader had foreseen the destruction of the first Death Star and even set Tarkin up for a fall, not wanting him to be 'holding his leash'. If I recall, Tarkin mentions that he's 'taking an awful risk' and Vader replies that it will be 'a day long remembered'. Well, from a certain POV you might argue that Vader allowed the Rebels a great victory, but destroyed an important political rival. He also believed that he had avenged himself by destroying Obi-Wan. I wonder what Vader thought when Kenobi claimed that he would be stronger, if he struck him down, and when he did, Kenobi's remains disappeared. Wouldn't he have run to the Emperor and said, 'Ding, dang, yo! That brother was stone-cold outta heya!'?
    sarlaccsaurs-rex likes this.
  25. Joe Force Ghost

    Member Since:
    Dec 25, 2012
    star 6
    I can't imagine that the galaxy would just forget about the moon which blew up a planet. Even if the DS isn't seen, I'd like to see the impact such a thing leaves on the galaxy. Do planets build their own planet destroyers as a deterrent, breeding mistrust and dividing the galaxy even further? There is a lot of places to go with this.

    That being said, I don't want a superweapon to be the focus of VII. Been there, done that.
    Darkslayer likes this.