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Idaho DEBATE - Should the O.T. DVD's be the orginial, S.E. or "Ultimate"

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  1. cmdrwillard

    cmdrwillard Jedi Padawan star 4

    Apr 6, 2003
    This seems to be the debate in alot of places lately. I would hope they are the Special Editions with a bonus disc with each movie with deleted scenes ect. like the Prequel DVD's did.

    I think the Special Editions are the better vision of the trilogy, however if they did small things like add the emeperor to Episode Four, that would be cool too. No matter which edition it is, It will be great to finally have the O.T. on DVD.
  2. JarJarGetsaBadRap

    JarJarGetsaBadRap Jedi Youngling star 1

    Oct 4, 2003
    I am hoping for a more jazzed up version. The "Ultimate" Editions if you will. I think it would be cool because I think there is still work to be done on the movies. But as you say it is just great that they are coming to DVD.
  3. Idaho_Vorkosigan

    Idaho_Vorkosigan Jedi Youngling star 1

    Jan 8, 2003
    On the contrary, I will be dissapointed if there isn't an original version and special edition of each movie... so of course, I will be dissapointed. But, to think that one day when I show these to my future kin, that they will see luke jumping after the climatic battle in empire, and have them hear him scream.. not just any scream, but the emperors from jedi... and not learn that even in defeat one must be strong... well that just makes me sad. It's little things like that, they make me think that for all the steps forward with his movie Lucas has taken, that he took a few more back.

    End of rant ;)
  4. MalcolmTolemac

    MalcolmTolemac Jedi Youngling star 3

    Apr 6, 2002
    Well, you can bet that it won't be the original edition. Lucas always thought that version to be so incomplete. That was one of the major reasons he did the S.E. However, in doing my own films, no matter how big or small, I must agree with Lucas when he says,"Films aren't released, they only escape." 'they are never really completed, they only (you hope) get better.'

    Film, like any other art form is one you always seek to perfect and make better. I know I would do my FanFlim completely different if I had the chance to do it again. You must keep moving forward or else there's no real point in doing it. I for one only watch the S.E. anymore, knowing it is "Lucas' complete vision" of what he wanted the films to be. But if there was an Ultimate Edition, I would be sure to grap it up to see how Lucas continues to give us more glimpes of that galaxy far, far away. And I would hope it would have some behind the scenes and history of how Lucas helped developed film making and the process of filming into what we know and enjoy today.

    QUIGONJINN02 Jedi Padawan star 4

    Mar 29, 2003
    Who knows, perhaps the "ultimate editions" will take out the Greedo shooting first and the terrible screaming. Either way, I'm totally excited for these DVD's.
  6. cmdrwillard

    cmdrwillard Jedi Padawan star 4

    Apr 6, 2003
    I loved the fact Greedo shot first, it makes Han Solo a great humanitarian, gaaaaaaaaaggg!!!!!
  7. jedi5150

    jedi5150 Jedi Youngling star 3

    Dec 4, 2000
    Here's a list of rumored changes for the "ULTIMATE" version...some of this I can see, some of it, well, no...


    Episode IV: A New Hope

    01. The Imperial March has been added to Darth Vader's first appearance on Princess Leia's ship.

    02. When Obi-Wan is talking to Luke about his father Anakin's Theme plays
    in the background and then it turns into the Imperial March as he talks
    about Vader.

    03. The lightsaber effects have been redone and the frame jumps of
    lightsabers being turned on has been removed.

    04. There's a new scene which has been shot during the filming of Episode
    III in which the Emperor dissolves the Senate.

    05. In the Cantina, the Duros(green aliens guys) have been replaced with
    Neimoidians and some aliens from the prequels have been added.

    06. The bleeding arm on the floor in the Cantina has been replaced with a
    non-bleeding arm because it's now canon that lightsabers cauterize wounds.

    07. The original shooting scene between Han and Greedo has been restored.

    08. Jabba the Hutt has been given a makeover and Han no longer steps on
    his tail.

    09. In place of R2 wobbling down the stairs to the Falcon's hangar, a CG
    R2 navigating the stairs like he does in Attack of the Clones was added.

    10. The white boxes around space ships have been removed and new CG shots
    have been added.

    11. The scene of the Falcon being chased by the two Star Destroyers was
    modified. The Falcon now does spinning moves, avoiding the Star Destroyers' fire.

    12. When the Death Star destroys Alderaan there's a new scene of Yoda's
    reaction to the disturbance in the Force that is created by all those
    deaths and then it cuts to Obi-Wan reacting to it as well.

    13. The Dianoga has gotten a CG makeover and were are now able to see more of the creature.

    14. The Death Star's paneling and computers have been slightly altered to
    show similar displays to those in the prequels.

    15. The words "Tractor Beam" with Aurebesh lettering.

    16. More stormtroopers have been added to the Death Star.

    17. Temuera Morrison's voice is being recorded for use with all the

    18. The Obi-Wan/Vader duel has been spruced up. It is much more epic and
    there is much more movement. A modified version of Duel of the Fates is being considered for the scene.

    19. The Death Star plans that are taken from R2 have been updated. When the Rebels are reviewing the Death Star plans they look similar to the
    plans we see in Attack of the Clones.

    20. The Death Star battle is much more epic with more Tie Fighters and more Rebels being blown to bits. We get to see old Naboo starfighters being used by the Rebels.

    21. There's a new scene(shot during Episode III) where Darth Vader goes to
    Coruscant and lands his ship in the same building Count Dooku does at the
    end of Attack of the Clones. Except now the building is all fixed up and it is now Palpatine's palace. He meets with Palpatine to ask for forgiveness for his failure and inform him of a new potential who is strong in the Force.

    22. Chewbacca now gets a medal.

    Episode V: The Empire Strikes Back

    01. The taun-tauns are now CG.

    02. The battle of Hoth is much more epic. We see the Imperial ships land
    on Hoth and release AT-ATs. The AT-ATs have been sped up a bit. There's a
    ground battle between the Rebel soldiers and stormtroopers featuring new ships and vehicles.

    03. Temuera Morrison's voice is being recorded for the older Boba Fett and
    all the stormtroopers.

    04. The white boxes around space ships have been removed.

    05. The slug monster is CG.

    06. Ian McDiarmid has refilmed scenes as the Emperor. The conversations
    between Vader and Palpatine is now longer and features a few connections
    to the prequels.

    07. Yoda's face is now animated in CG allowing more _expression of emotions yet his movements remain the same. Also two deleted scenes featuring Yoda instructing Luke have been restored.

    08. A new scene was shot in which the stormtroope
  8. cmdrwillard

    cmdrwillard Jedi Padawan star 4

    Apr 6, 2003
    is this information acurate, becuase if it is, damn these will be good!!!!

    QUIGONJINN02 Jedi Padawan star 4

    Mar 29, 2003
    I'm all for most of these changes, while some in Jedi I'm not sure of. Otherwise, this is all perfectly suitable and makes sense to me...I'm especially hopeful that Ian is replacing that other Emperor. Doug, is this information accurate? I hope so.

    QUIGONJINN02 Jedi Padawan star 4

    Mar 29, 2003
    The only thing I'm "not" liking here is the Padme' spirit and Hayden replacing Sebastain. There would be no need for either of these things. Besides, Padme' isn't a Jedi and I don't think she'd appear like that. It's hard to say if any of this is true or not.
  11. GeneralAntillies111

    GeneralAntillies111 Jedi Youngling

    Nov 7, 2003
    I strongly disagre with you Qui Gonn. Why wouldn't you want Hayden to be the one in the Vader suit at the end of Jedi? I'm just hoping that the Greedo shooting first scene is fixed, it gives Episode 4 a black eye.

  12. JarJarGetsaBadRap

    JarJarGetsaBadRap Jedi Youngling star 1

    Oct 4, 2003
    More EWOKS!!!!Sweet!!!!!An older Ja Jar, how cool would that be?!!! The Cmdr is loving this I'm sure!!!!!!!

    QUIGONJINN02 Jedi Padawan star 4

    Mar 29, 2003
    The Hayden thing I don't mind, but don't see that it's needed, it's already believable enough that it's Anakin in the suit...I'm just not liking the Padme' spirit thing.
  14. cmdrwillard

    cmdrwillard Jedi Padawan star 4

    Apr 6, 2003
    the new rumor is that each movie will be sold seperately, so expect to pay around 60.00 for these.
  15. Darth_Brimstone

    Darth_Brimstone Jedi Youngling star 1

    Oct 11, 2001
    I suggest that there be anothe special edition with tie ins of the prequels, like Jimmy smits looking up at the death star on alderon and that laser hitting him square in his LA LAW mug

    or Artoo killing Jar Jar by yanking his tongue out and strangling him with it.

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