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Senate Derp, DERP. Derpitimus Maximus. Derpity deeeeeeerp...

Discussion in 'Community' started by VadersLaMent, Sep 4, 2012.

  1. ShaneP

    ShaneP Ex-Mod Officio star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Well, it's Ender. :p
     
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  2. Ender Sai

    Ender Sai Chosen One star 10

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    Much <3 Shane.

    The role of government is not to facilitate worst practice. Is it not to prop up failing industries. The state can be a discretionary spender in areas that require expenditure like subsidising education so that the state has a competitive and flexible workforce.

    If you use Material A in the construction of Widget X, and Material B is the same quality and substance but cheaper, you will rightly switch to material B to keep costs down. Yet when labour can be switched for a cheaper, dear god the humanity!

    It will happen. It's inevitable. Labour is a commodity. I would be asking Democrats and Republicans why they have failed to adequately prepare US workers for these changes.

    So if I jump into a nest of vipers, am I entitled to complain about the pain of each bite?
    As my taxes have propped up industries which should have died years ago, I'm rightfully resentful of this waste and this idiocy. I blame worker, union and government equally but I've scant sympathy for a culture that permits entitlement for people who board a sinking ship.
    "The fundamental impulse that sets and keeps the capitalist engine in motion comes from the new consumers’ goods, the new methods of production or transportation, the new markets, the new forms of industrial organization that capitalist enterprise creates.... the opening up of new markets, foreign or domestic, and the organizational development from the craft shop and factory to such concerns as U.S. Steel illustrate the same process of industrial mutation... that incessantly revolutionizes the economic structure from within, incessantly destroying the old one, incessantly creating a new one. This process of Creative Destruction is the essential fact about capitalism. It is what capitalism consists in and what every capitalist concern has got to live in"

    Schumpeter, Capitalism, Socialism and Democracy, 1942.

    Vivec, there are always winners and losers in every equation but the general point of churn in the economy is that there's a net social benefit. If an industry is dying, let it die. The short term effects are mitigated by the long term benefits and trying to preserve the old order leads to stagnation.

    Would you be protesting in favour of those who built steam engines? Of those who maintained horse and carriage businesses when cars came along?

    You're making an identical case now...
     
  3. Ender Sai

    Ender Sai Chosen One star 10

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    Yes and were you not so ill-equipped to consider, wholly , the scope of the situation you wouldn't be so keen to perpetuate waste, inefficiencies, and a kernel of hope in the fact of overwhelming reality.

    I note you decline to acknowledge the points where I also put it back on governments. Tell me Vivec, do you have to force yourself to be disingenuous or is it a natural, unintended side effect?
     
  4. Lord Vivec

    Lord Vivec Chosen One star 9

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    Those points aren't relevant to what I was saying. My posts specifically targeted your verbal abuse of unskilled workers. Frankly, I don't care how against TOS it is, but you're a disgusting "person" in your treatment of those with less opportunities than yourself.
     
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  5. Ender Sai

    Ender Sai Chosen One star 10

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    So then, you hold the view that if I were to walk in front of a bus knowingly and deliberately, I would be entitled to complain about the pain and after effects as if they were an indignant outrage?

    Vivec, that those people have been failed by government is part of the equation. By your rationale, people who borrowed money for houses they knew they couldn't possibly afford aren't culpable for the outcomes, because it's all about predatory lenders.

    I'm also not sure you're not thinking minimum wage workers over people in industries which are drying up.

    Let me put this way - mount an economic argument for me.
     
  6. VadersLaMent

    VadersLaMent Chosen One star 10

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    [​IMG]

    Anyhoo. Hopefully we have a derp free Thanksgiving.
     
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  7. Ender Sai

    Ender Sai Chosen One star 10

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    I assume this is you extricating yourself from a conversation where you quickly realised you made a silly comment and you don't want to be accountable for it any longer?:p
     
  8. VadersLaMent

    VadersLaMent Chosen One star 10

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    I assume this is that thing where you think if people don't waste their time responding to your crap that you think you're right?
     
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  9. Ender Sai

    Ender Sai Chosen One star 10

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    I know I'm right. Anyone who understands economics knows I am right. Anyone with a basic tertiary education would not struggle with the concept that paying more for American workers over developing world workers is a measure that keeps costs down. And that it has a positive effect on inflation.
     
  10. VadersLaMent

    VadersLaMent Chosen One star 10

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    In other words, yes, you think someone who doesn't jump through hoops to respond directly to you is wrong and then you insult them in the end as you just did. Congrats, you are a part of the derp I started this thread for.
     
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  11. Ender Sai

    Ender Sai Chosen One star 10

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    VLM, you started it for acts of unmitigated stupidity for which the perpetrators are usually blissfully unaware, wrapped in a cocoon of ignorance. The irony here, factoring in the above, is beautiful.

    I mean, Vivec I suspect "gets it", he's just speaking from the heart rather than the head...
     
  12. ShaneP

    ShaneP Ex-Mod Officio star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    If you want less war and more peace and prosperity, trade more, talk more, and migrate more.

    If you want more war and less peace and prosperity, do the opposite.
     
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  13. VadersLaMent

    VadersLaMent Chosen One star 10

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    Blah, blah, blah, look at me, blah blah, I'm and expert, blah blah. Again, you are on the derp gang. Congrats.
     
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  14. Ender Sai

    Ender Sai Chosen One star 10

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    Didn't you learn any of this at unive... Oh.
     
  15. VadersLaMent

    VadersLaMent Chosen One star 10

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    "Wrapped in a cocoon of ignorance". You actually typed that and thought it awesome. [face_laugh] You'll be remembered for derping up a derp thread. Any other...ahem..."whitty replies"?
     
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  16. Point Given

    Point Given Manager star 7 Staff Member Manager

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    Okay guys, stop it.
     
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  17. VadersLaMent

    VadersLaMent Chosen One star 10

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    Will do, chief!



    Ready?



    OMG PURE EVIL!
     
  18. VadersLaMent

    VadersLaMent Chosen One star 10

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    In an open letter to Obama's kis...

    GOP staffer:

    “Dear Sasha and Malia,” wrote Lauten, “I get that you’re both in those awful teen years, but you’re part of the First Family, try showing a little class. At least respect the part that you play. Then again your mother and father don’t respect their positions very much, or the nation for that matter, so I’m guessing you’re coming up a little short in the ‘good role model’ department.”

    She continued, “Nevertheless, stretch yourself, rise to the occasion. Act like being in the White House matters to you. Dress like you deserve respect, not a spot at a bar. And certainly don’t make faces during televised, public events.”

    It's nice to see Gingrich-style politics still at work.

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    Arizona schoolboard. Text book. Sex education. Contraception.

    Ms. Smith, the school board member and parent, said she had been driving her family home from church back in January when her son told her about what was in the textbook. “I almost drove off the road,” she said.
    “I’m Catholic; we do not contracept,” Ms. Smith said. “It is a grave sin.” By including those pages in the curriculum, she added, “you have violated my religious rights.”

    There's a dystopia waiting around the corner. There are 2 options to get there in just two years:

    1. Vote GOP
    or
    2. Democrat voters stay home again.
     
  19. anakinfansince1983

    anakinfansince1983 Skywalker Saga/LFL/YJCC Manager star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    Dear Lauten, whoever the hell you are: Try minding your own ****ing business and finding something better to worry about than the way a couple of teenage girls dress.

    As far as the "violating religious freedom" argument...LOL. The textbook is not forcing the kid to use birth control. How is it a violation of religious freedom to find out that it exists? If Mom thinks it's a sin, what happened to just explaining to her kid why she thinks so?
     
  20. Juliet316

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  21. Jabba-wocky

    Jabba-wocky Chosen One star 10

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    At age 16, Jenna Bush was getting legal citations for underage drinking. This idiot has the nerve to berate Malia for thinking her Dad looked dorky at a turkey ceremony? Good to know we're consistent.
     
  22. Arawn_Fenn

    Arawn_Fenn Chosen One star 7

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    LOL

    "I'm not really like that, honest! It wasn't meeeeeeeee!!! The dog ate my homework!!! WAAAAAAAAAAA"
     
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  23. Seagoat

    Seagoat Former Manager star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Sort of bothering me that nobody has pointed out that the thread's title is offensive in that it's ableism
     
  24. heels1785

    heels1785 Skywalker Saga + JCC Manager / Finally Won A Draft star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    You could really just say that this person is disgusting without joining her in the mud, but to each his or her own.

    And for accuracy's sake, Ms. Bush and her sister were 19. The always-classy Joan Walsh smeared them on Salon.
     
  25. Ender Sai

    Ender Sai Chosen One star 10

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    VadersLaMent, will you please apologise to Rob Schneider here for your use of the "derp"?