PT Dexter Jettster...

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  1. darthbarracuda Jedi Grand Master

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    Other than Jar-Jar, I think Dex is the worst character in the saga. His CGI wasn't very well done. And he's got that demeanor that's supposed to be..."funny?"...to the kiddies, like how Jar-Jar was supposed to be. There's no explanation of his connections with Obi Wan or the Jedi, and there's no explanations of why out of all people Dexter is the one who knows the dart and where the dart came from (Kamino). I mean really, even if the archives in the Jedi Temple were wiped clean of Kamino by Dooky, there's got to be some other place that has records of it. Or at least a navcomputer. I think that whole scene, along with awful Jettster, was very poorly written and not very well thought out.
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  2. bstnsx704 Force Ghost

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    The only explanation that we really need is that he's friends with Obi-Wan and that he knows more about 'scum and villainy' than the Jedi do. He came in, did his job, and exited the scene.

    I enjoyed the character, and thought the whole diner thing was a nice touch.
  3. Darth Chiznuk Dark Lord of the New Films Forums

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    It's one of my absolute favorite scenes in AOTC. I love the design of Dexter and the environment of the diner is wonderful. Not every character needs an extensive backstory and for me it's fun to imagine how someone like Obi-Wan met someone like Dexter.
  4. Deputy Rick Grimes Force Ghost

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    Appears for a couple of minutes

    "I HATE HIM" [face_devil]

    Sums up other fan's feelings :p
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  5. ezekiel22x Chosen One

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    I think generally the kiddies are going to go for things like, you know, farm boys turned kingdom heroes more so than greasy 50s diner owners. Anyways I think Dex is a classic Star Wars mash-up character--part noir bartender who's seen it all, obvious nod to Lucas's American Graffiti roots, and in another respect just a mundane four armed alien working class kind of guy. Lucas said all along that AOTC was a different kind of Star Wars film, and although of course he primarily referred to the stylized courtly romance, I think the film's uniqueness likewise extends its multitude of mundane daily life snapshots. We get quick tours of Padme and Jango Fett's apartment, we see two characters in their respective beds at night, as well as a meal served during a routine transport--I've seen it suggested that pirates should have attacked during this scene, and it seems to me that shoehorning some ESB-style run and gun banter/action here sounds like a great way to rob the Anakin/Padme development here of its quiet effectiveness. Dex and his diner fits in nicely with this "atmosphere of the normal."
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  6. SlashMan Force Ghost

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    It shows Obi-Wan's resourcefulness. He has connections, and doesn't always rely on the Jedi solution. Almost like Qui-Gon.
  7. Darth Dominikkus Jedi Grand Master

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    He had a role and performed it. At least his character wasn't dragged out like Jar Jar's.
  8. Arawn_Fenn Chosen One

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    Actually, there is...
  9. Jedi Gunny Yahtzee Host

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    I think it's interesting to see more of Coruscant than just a few buildings, and the diner just shows us how the majority of people there live (by going to diners, bars, etc.)
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  10. Kenneth Morgan Chosen One

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    I have no problem with him; it's a nice change of pace from the ominous feel of the Dark Side spreading.

    Of course, we still haven't seen the deleted sequence where Kenobi leaves, then a surgeon walks in and asks Dexter about how to treat a mitral valve prolapse on a Wookiee. And getting an answer after slipping Dexter a sawbuck.
  11. drg4 Force Ghost

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    I loved the scene in question. In fact, I wish Lucas had ditched the comparatively flavorless macrocosmic material in favor of a two-hour film noir/courtly-love experiment. (And at the end, we find out the japor snippet is the "stuff dreams are made of.")
  12. Ahsoka_Tano_11 Jedi Master

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    If you read The Life and Legend of Obi Wan Kenobi it tells you how Obi Wan and Dexter first meet. I read this exact story last night!
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  13. Ambervikings91 Jedi Grand Master

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  14. Ambervikings91 Jedi Grand Master

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    it is interesting people say there is no explanation for certain things just becuz it doesn't happen in the film
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  15. Kenneth Morgan Chosen One

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    I haven't read that story, so I'm at a disadvantage.
  16. Ambervikings91 Jedi Grand Master

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    it happens, there is a lot i haven't read myself. So what I end up doing is when there is stuff in SW I don't know I go check it out.

    By the way the backstory there isn't terribly interesting lol
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  17. Ahsoka_Tano_11 Jedi Master

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    Some people just think that the movies are the limit, but they are soooo wrong.
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  18. Ambervikings91 Jedi Grand Master

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    totally, the EU is totally amazing, really opens up star wars in so many different ways! I totally agree!
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  19. ObiAlKenobi Jedi Grand Master

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    I actually liked the diner scene and old Dex. Trust me, I am one who hates too much CGI, Jar Jar, etc. but I liked the diner, it's atmosphere and the fact that Obi-Wan actually had good friends outside the Jedi order. And that he had a place that he liked to grab some Jawa Juice lol.
  20. Joe Force Ghost

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    I liked Dex. He's like friendly, perhaps a little overly-friendly, and he is very helpful. He's arguably the first (and last) basic-speaking friendly alien we meet in the entirety of the PT who was 'normal' (by our standards). I think meeting such an alien was important to show the entire galaxy isn't composed of humans and weird, non-basic speaking aliens.
  21. anakinfansince1983 Nightsister of Old Movies and Saga

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    I loved Dex. I liked that Obi-Wan had both a friend and a "source" outside the Order who was able to help him solve the toxic dart problem. Without Dex, the Jedi might have never found out about the clone army.
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  22. FRAGWAGON Force Ghost

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    One of the best side characters in Star Wars. The scene was all the more real and warm due to the live interaction of Ewan and Ron Falk.
  23. Garrett Atkins Jedi Grand Master

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    Probably because most people who watch the films are casual films unlike us. If we are told, we are not shown, meaning we do not get the feel or reason of a character's actions.
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  24. Darth Dominikkus Jedi Grand Master

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    Just gotta make sure correct references are used. Some people like to pretend they read the books and make something up that supports their opinion.
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  25. Reveen Jedi Grand Master

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    You know, up until then I was happy believing that there were no actual fat people in Star Wars. I mean, with Jabba I guessed that was just what Hutts look like. With Boss Nass I figured it was a evolutionary quirk like biggest guy is leader or it's a matriarchy and and was some odd sexual dimorphism.

    Then Dexter comes in and BAM suddenly Star Wars has fat guys in it. It's not how his species is, he's just fat. Thanks a friggin' lot, George.
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