PT Dexter Jettster...

Han in ANH: "Without precise calculations you'd fly right through a star, or bounce too close to a supernova."

Implication- you can't just go straight there.

 

The script makes it clear that Han doesn't know what he's talking about and is just saying something that sounds impressive, and that Ben is well aware of what he's doing.

 

It simply says "Ben reacts to Han's attempt to impress them with obvious misinformation"- not precisely what the "misinformation" is.

Interestingly, the novel has Han say "12 standard timeparts" instead.

I'm OK with the EU authors providing a explanation that doesn't make Han both a braggart and an idiot (a starship captain not knowing what a parsec is, stretches my suspension of disbelief somewhat).

 

SweetZombieJesus:

We'll have to agree to disagree, then, because I don't miss the "crucial point." Sifo Dyas makes sense to me. Han misspeaking of parsecs makes sense (yes, I have always understood it to be a measure of distance) - I could come up with several possible reasons Han spoke in such terms and in at least one, using parsecs in its correct sense could make Han's statement true.

The reason things "don't make sense" to some, sometimes, is because I swear some are looking for ways for something to "not make sense" rather than using common sense to fill in these "gaps" for themselves.

Star Wars are fantasy space-opera movies and there's really little need except personal perference to try to overanalyze and pick things apart. But have at it if you will.

 

The real reason Han said parsecs is because George Lucas was filling in his screenplay with technobabble and he screwed up because he didn't understand the word he chose. Maybe he heard it on "Nova" or something. But we know in the Star Wars universe things work more on magic than on technology and nothing is ever really explained on a feasible technical level. Obviously George is not really versed in real world technology and physics.

Sifo-Dyas was bad storytelling, and/or at very least a dropped storyline that was dangled in front of the audience like a crucial clue and then abandoned. In comes the EU to sweep up George's mess and try to make it make sense.

The fact that we have to turn to in-universe solutions to these problems is precisely what I'm complaining about in the first place. People made George out to be sci-fi God and he wasn't. The prequels underscored it, but the evidence was there in the OT as well.

 

Oh, I agree the Sifo-Dyas thing was an unresolved "dangle" and all that, but personally I didn't find "the truth, the entire truth and nothing else" a flaw - ultimately it wasn't important. So the EU "filled in" - unnecessary for me and many others, although fun.

Ultimately unimportant elements =/= bad storytelling. (For many of us. YMMV.)

 

I actually like that the Sifo Dyas thing is never explained, at least if you aren't counting EU explanations. The Sith operate in the shadows, and the circumstances surrounding the creation of the clone army being a mystery works in the movie.

As far as the Dexter character and the diner itself, I don't have strong feelings on that one way or the other. Except that whatever Jawa Juice is , it sounds disgusting.

 

I would like to see more of Dexter Jettster's backstory expanded on someday. Since any old EU stories about him are now obsolete, I hope he shows up in the Obi-Wan and Anakin comic series or a pre AOTC novel. I wonder if Obi-Wan ever had any adventures with him or if he just liked hanging out in Dex's Diner listening to stories?

 

While I'm a big fan of Episode II, I really don't like that scene. It's very out of place... a (relatively) modern American diner in outer space!? It's so weird.

 

I actually never minded Dexter or the scene in general that much. Yes Dexter does look a bit fake and a almost modern diner is rather strange in a future galaxy. But the scene only lasts like five minutes so I never really saw what the big deal was.

 

Dexter is awesome.

And holy thread revival.

 

Neither Dex nor Jar Jar revere the Jedi. In the absence of the everyman smartass character like Han Solo someone else has to fill that role on occasion. It's also nice to see a guy who's not a Jedi or Senator or part of their entourage. Just a regular person going about his daily business.

 

I LOVE DEX. Haters suck it.

 

He's great. Great voice and great rapport with Obiwan

 

Yep. Ron Falk sells that scene.

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NECRO THREAD!!!! My chance to complain about that scene!

First, the good. I LOVE the idea of Dex and his diner. I think the voice actor (Falk is it?) did an outstanding job. I love that it implies that Kenobi has some underworld connections, and can use them when other avenues fail him.

Now... what DOESN'T work. Dex. Or rather the CGI of Dex. FAKE FAKE FAKE. It's Watto level bad to me. Blech. The setting. I like the idea of a diner. But a 30-40's era diner lifted almost wholesale? I found it a bit jarring. But even that, I could live with. It's the gawdawful waitress droid that drives me nuts. Lucas just can't seem to resist getting too cutesy.

OTOH, I really liked the night club scene, I thought that was almost pitch-perfect.

 

Falk was not just the voice actor.

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My only regret is that Dex's role wasn't expanded. Love the character. Could have made a great alien sidekick.

 

I loved Dex. The CGI has aged pretty badly but i still love the character. Great voice and interesting personality.

 

How does a real besalisk looks like?

 

Not like smeared digital textures. Just sayin....

 

So, like what...?

 

I'm just saying that for ME, Dexter was not a successful digital character. The textures used on him stretch and smear in some pretty obvious ways. If you like him, knock yourself out. I like the character, I just think the execution was sub-par, even by AOTC standards. For me AOTC is the successful of the PT from a visual stand point, though TPM gives it a run for its money. I think ROTS is much, much better.

 

And I'm asking why, not wether you (or I) like him or not.

 

Thought I just said so..... blurry and smeared textures, that stretched in odd ways when he moved. Not a great implementation.