I been thinking some, and this post by GoMer..... "George delivered the goods, TPM IS a great addition to the saga. But you have to want to see that to be able to. If you close your mind off, and assume Lucas screwed everything up, then of course you will never get to the point where you "get" TPM, because your focus is only on citing Lucas' faults in making it, without ever questioning your ability to soak it up." ..... really pissed me off, and I wanted to respond to it. Before I could, everything I wanted to say was said. Now, the next snippet was revealed from him, along the lines of how he hoped we could learn how to watch a SW movie. It seemed a bit grating, but then he said he just wants us to be able to enjoy the next movies. Diction aside, I think that's a noble statement, but Sir GoMer, YOU are a fanatic, like the man said. I finally figured it out, I think. You DO defend SW the way some defend religion, and we all know where *Israel cough Israel cough* that can lead. I think - and I say this with NO disrespect - you should take a step back and look AGAIN at where we're coming from. We're not saying you're stupid, but you're definitely using cave-logic to argue your point. I want EVERYONE to lay off Gomer if you don't mind for a sec. Let him take in everything we've said. That will be our responsibility. GoMer, it is yours to look closely at what we've said in return. For real, man, take a good, long, solid gander at what all was said, setting aside any grating comments (mostly from me) that were directed at you. Go through the WHOLE thread, and take all the points made by us into consideration. Try to see where we're coming from. Here's the analogy that best represents the situation here for you GoMer (and it's a true story): I used to work in a bar (never mind which city) where there were TONS of Marines. I had gone out to this bar a lot before I asked for a job as a doorman. It was a hoppin place all the time, even in the daytime. So one night, this Marine (18-19 yo if that) comes up to me a little tipsy and shouts, showing off to his buddies, "What's the most dangerous thing in the world????" I told him I didn't know with a shrug. He came back, very agitated, with, "STUPID ASS!! A UNITED STATES MARINE!" I laughed a little, and him and all his friends took it TOTALLY the wrong way. Now I had let this kid in against the rules JUST because he was a Marine. He knew I did him a favor, in fact, by letting him in even though he wasn't 21, so he could have fun with his buds. Normally, however, if someone disrespects the security with that kind of business, they get thrown out on their ass. I didn't necessarily want to do that, because the kid was green, and because he was a Marine. I didn't know the kid, but I knew a lot of the other guys he hung out with, and they knew me. But when I laughed at their Corps (which was how they took it) when they were making a claim like this, they got really mad. So what to do? I looked at the kid straight and said, "Actually, a dumb Marine like you is the SECOND most dangerous thing in the world. Wanna know what the first is?" He puffed up in my face and I pushed him back. I said, "A smart bouncer." He looked at me, kind of dumbly, after which I dragged him out by his head to the police car that was sitting out front. I don't know what happened to him, but there's only so much you can do. I do feel a little bad about what probably happened to him later on, but in the end, I wouldn't ever take it back. He was a blind follower and didn't take into consideration the potential consequences of his actions. Gomes, I'm not saying you are necessarily like this guy, but fanatics of any kind can be dangerous. The problem for the fanatical is knowing when they've gone too far. I say this in total honesty and an attempt at peace: GoMer, take this into consideration, please.