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ST Did Finn really believe the FO were chasing him?

Discussion in 'Sequel Trilogy' started by Jakku, Feb 22, 2016.

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  1. Jakku

    Jakku Jedi Knight star 2

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    When the stormtroopers arrived at Niima outpost, Finn immediately told Rey they were shooting at him. Presumably he was genuinely fearful that the FO would hunt him down, but if so, why did he grab Rey's hand and pull her into danger with him? Going by his explanation, it would have been better to run away from Rey and keep her out of harm's way.

    OTOH, he did know that 'everyone' was after the droid that he'd just seen Rey defending. So why didn't he tell her that the droid was the real target of the FO?

    Did the FO show any interest whatever in recapturing him?
     
  2. Darth Geezy

    Darth Geezy Jedi Master star 3

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    I see where you're going here and I think there is more than enough evidence that Finn isn't a double-agent.
     
  3. JediAce1

    JediAce1 Force Ghost star 5

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    The FO were after the droid AND Finn. He knew this, so that's why he grabbed Rey.
     
  4. Knights of Ben

    Knights of Ben Jedi Padawan star 2

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    Yeah, it's Rey who actually chases down Finn and attacks HIM. She's the one who is responsible for bringing them together, and so the stormtroopers spot them together. They are definitely looking for Finn as well as bb8, as Hux has sent a squad to the tie wreckage to track down any survivors. Although it's possible they think he's already dead, I don't think that's the case given that he leaves his stormtrooper armour some distance from the tie crash to find. And they would be on the lookout regardless. Either way, the stormtroopers are already looking for bb8, who is pointed out by the Jakku villager (well bb8 with Rey). Because of Rey, Finn is stood next to her, and so the stormtrooper who has been on the lookout for Finn will recognise him too. And Finn certainly believes this to be the case:

    Rey: "They're shooting at both of us!"

    Finn: "Yeah, they saw you with me! You're marked!"

    Rey: "Well thanks for that!"

    And Finn saves Rey's life at least once in this sequence by grabbing her hand (dragging her from the tent before the tie kills them). Bottom line is the FO are after both Finn and Rey (with bb8), who are spotted together almost immediately after meeting each other. So they're obviously better off escaping together and helping each other to survive. Which is precisely HOW they manage to survive.
     
  5. Jakku

    Jakku Jedi Knight star 2

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    But were they? Hux sent troops into the badlands because he reasoned that Poe and Finn were going back for the droid, so that was the sensible place to go to find it. Nothing was said about capturing/killing FN-2187.
     
  6. BucMan-55

    BucMan-55 Jedi Master star 1

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    I always took it to mean they saw their crash trajectory so that's where they want to find them. If Poe/Finn know where to find the droid, they will lead the FO to them (willingly or unwillingly).
     
  7. Knights of Ben

    Knights of Ben Jedi Padawan star 2

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    Yeah the dialogue is explicit: "send a squad to the wreckage".
     
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  8. JediAce1

    JediAce1 Force Ghost star 5

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    Maybe Finn just felt like he would be able to protect Rey. Yes, he saw her take down those thugs, but stormtroopers are much harder to deal with.
     
  9. Colm

    Colm Jedi Master star 2

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    I agree. He was doing what he thought was best for Rey.

    And I thought the stormtroopers were after both Finn & the droid in that scene.
     
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  10. Jakku

    Jakku Jedi Knight star 2

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    Without any kind of weapon? She had the only weapon between them!

    I mean, what happened to the blaster he used to 'escort' Poe as a prisoner? Did he manage to lose every weapon he came into contact with in the film? (Now I think about it, yes, even the lightsabre!)
     
  11. CometSmudge

    CometSmudge Jedi Padawan

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    The FO burned down that village just because the map was there, so they would most likely kill Rey for having BB-8. I doubt they would just take the droid and leave without harming anyone
     
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  12. Knights of Ben

    Knights of Ben Jedi Padawan star 2

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    Yep...which is precisely why the film then shows the FO attempting to kill them until they leave orbit in the Falcon! They're spotted together, they have to escape together. Or they die. From here, the FO just want bb8. Regardless of how many weapons they have between them, they don't have a choice. And Finn's rifle was perhaps damaged in the crash, and/or it sinks with the tie before he has a chance to find it. And I wouldn't say he "loses" the lightsabre when fighting Kylo, as Kylo beats him in combat to remove it from his grasp.
     
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  13. Dagobah Dragonsnake

    Dagobah Dragonsnake Jedi Master star 4

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    Yes, it is all intertwined: They knew the map was in BB8, they knew that Finn and Poe had pilfered the TIE fighter, that it was disabled and had crashed on Jakku, and they assumed Poe was going back after the droid.

    Regardless whether Finn exactly thought if he was or was not their primary target, he knew he was in for some really serious retribution. Finn believes he can help protect Rey while trying to also save himself, since eluding bombing and strafing TIE fighters, is not the same as handling thugs with a staff.
     
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  14. RobbyV

    RobbyV Jedi Master star 4

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    The stormtroopers were looking for BB-8, basing it on the fact that the informants pointing to them were the same thugs who had just tried to take him from Rey. BB-8 was the main object of desire by the FO, not Finn.

    Finn ran away because he knew he was also "wanted" and would be caught by virtue of being right there at that time. He took Rey's hand because he knew that Rey wasn't going to give up BB-8 (from what he'd witnessed) and knew Rey had no chance against blasters (unlike Unkar's thugs).
     
  15. Millennium Falcon 888

    Millennium Falcon 888 Jedi Master star 4

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    Based on my two viewings of TFA, Finn definitely knew the FO was looking for him... Having become like some fugitive after hijacking a TIE Fighter and causing quite a bit of damage while trying to escape made him a wanted felon in the FO's eyes!

    But like what RobbyV said, their main aim was BB-8, as he held the map to Luke Skywalker... Finn was of secondary nature but added bonus if he is caught too!


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  16. JediAce1

    JediAce1 Force Ghost star 5

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    Did you forget that he was ejected from a destroyed TIE fighter? Of course he lost his blaster.

    Did you forget that he tried looking for a blaster in the tent he and Rey ran into?
     
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