CT Did Luke know anything about the Chosen One prophecy?

As the name implies, did Luke know anything about the prophecy of the Chosen One? I don't think he knew anything about the past Jedi order besides the information in the journal 'Ben' left him. Did Yoda or Obi Wan ever tell him other information?

 

Why tell him something that they might not believe in anymore? Also Anakin knew that they believe that he is and broke under the pressure.

Also at the time the Prophecy wasn't developed to the fullest.

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I'm almost certain that if he didn't in the OT, he did once he rebuilt the Jedi Order. Who knows - maybe that will play a part in Episode VII.

 

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Probably not. But if they did, it could have possibly been between ESB and ROTJ. Telling him before that would serve no purpose, as Anakin was supposed to be dead to him.

Though maybe Luke's determination to turn his father may have also been influenced by the prophecy.

 

I may have, but it probably had more to do with his faith in his daddy

 

I doubt he was aware of the original prophecy, though he did sense that Vader would turn back to the light side. However, after Vader did turn, someone (Force ghost of Yoda or Obi-Wan perhaps) probably told him.

 

Luke must of known if he thinks theres still good in anakin, obi wan must of told luke about the prophecy.

 

Looking at it cynically of course he wasn't aware of it, because it was something made up for the sake of the PT with no thought that it didn't tie in with the OT.

 

Luke believed there was still good in Vader because he could sense it. Why would Obi-Wan or Yoda tell Luke about the prophecy? They wanted him to kill Vader.

 

It might have been mentioned in a journal at Ben's house but that depends on how hard Luke looked when he made his new lightsaber. Probably came to light afterwards.

 

It's clear that Obi-Wan and Yoda no longer believed in the prophecy after Anakin's fall, so they would have no reason to tell Luke something that would further complicate things and confuse him more when it isn't true
Even if they still did believe in the prophecy, which I highly doubt, they would probably think that now Luke is the Chosen One, and telling him would be unwise as it was clear that Anakin's knowledge of his destiny went to his head, made him cocky and arrogant

 

I don't think Luke knew of the prophecy at the time, though he might have afterwards. At best he knows that stopping the Sith is important to the Jedi, though they don't elaborate on why, other than it will bring an end to the conflict.

 

Why would he know of the prophecy? After Anakin became Vader, Yoda and Obi-Wan came to the conclusion that the prophecy was false. They were wrong, of course, but why tell Luke about a prophecy that was false? And also, there was no communication between Luke and Obi-Wan between ESB and ROTJ, so he definitely didn't tell Luke.

 

Just bring in James Arnold Taylor to record some new dialog for the next Blu-ray release of ROTJ.

Obi-Wan: "Your father is the Chosen One. He is destined to bring balance to the force. And your mother chose death over raising you and your sister. She totally could have lived, but decided that without Anakin, life just wasn't worth living. You meant nothing to her. May the force yadda-yadda-yadda."

 

Come to think of it it does make more sense that Luke is the chosen one, not Anakin. If luke didn't sway vader the Emperor never would have been defeated.

 

But Vader is the one who kills Palpatine and Vader wanted to kill him anyway. The only difference is that he does it as a good man acting compassionately towards his son.

 

I thought Vader wanted Luke to kill Palpatine.

 

Vader wanted to turn Luke and then the two of them would overthrow Palpatine. He knows that Luke is a threat to Palpatine, but he's only thinking in terms of Luke being more physically whole than he is. He never says that only Luke can destroy him, only that together can they do it.

 

i would say no. by that time yoda and ben no longer believed anyway.

 

Lucas crafted the prophecy so that it specifically would tie into the OT. Which was pretty easy, given that the OT was already made, and all he had to do was make sure the prophecy was consistent with what happened in the previously released movies.

I honestly don't know where these sentiments come from. I mean, okay, so maybe you don't like the prophecy. But what do you even mean when you say it doesn't tie in with the OT? The prophecy says he's destined to destroy the Sith. In the OT, he does in fact destroy the Sith--which is why Lucas made the prophecy say that in the first place.

edit: But to deal with the thread topic more directly--no, I don't think Luke knew anything about it during the time of the movies. Yoda (and perhaps Ben) wanted Luke to decide on his own to try to redeem his father. The Jedi spent the better part of 13 years trying to make a prophecy come true during the time of the Republic, and it resulted in disaster. They've learned that it's better to act on instinct, rather than relying on faith in a predetermined outcome.

 

I suppose I was being a bit sarcastic in that the prophecy was something never mentioned in the OT and they added it to the PT, and my main gripe with the prophecy is that its something thats not really explained very well as it seems an important aspect of the Jedi faith. So pesonally I would have liked a bit more depth to it I guess. Maybe they kept it vague on purpose? The prophecy says Anakin was to bring balance to the force, but what does that mean? Is it vanquishing the Sith? I don't know. But I think we are guessing if we think the outcome of ROTJ ties in neatly with the chosen one fulfilling said prophecy, because the prophecy is so vague. To my way of thinking balance to the force doesn't mean it just consisting of good users and no dark side users.

 

In AOTC, Yoda says that the shroud of the dark side has fallen due to the start of the war and Mace says that their ability to use the Force has diminished, which Yoda links to their inability to know of the existence of the Clone Army. The Force is out of balance because of that and it is linked to the Sith as ROTS reveals with Obi-wan's parting words to Anakin.

 

I'd consider it pretty unlikely as it's never mentioned in the OT.

 

So I guess he didn't know about the Sith as they are never mentioned in the OT but remember Obi-Wan and Yoda thought Anakin was lost forever so really there is no reason for them to mention it.

They are simply trusting the Force will guide Luke somehow. Really they have no idea what's going to happen.

They might believe Luke can defeat Vader but how they possibly could think Luke could take out Sidious?

They are hoping not expecting.

Not at all it was created so that it would tie in with the OT. Far better than ESB and ROTJ tied in with SW what with the father and sister angle not to mention the hidden angle.

That's why the PT is able to smooth over the faults in the OT storyline as now being hidden in plain sight is used by Palpatine in the PT so Luke and Leia are doing it in the OT doesn't look any more ridiculous. Vader is the balance of the Force because he was good and became evil while in the OT good is pretty much good and evil pretty much evil. Vader is the focal point of good and evil hence can bring balance.

The thought that went into making the PT and OT line up was incredible really. A major writing achievement.

Lucas long ago learned the benefits of not tying things down too much. It was fortuitous that in SW it was not made absolutely explicit that Vader and Anakin were two different people. One errant line from Vader about how he killed Skywalker would have done it much like one line from Yoda about another meant he had to tie it up in the last film and shoehorn Leia into that spot.

So by never really locking in exactly what the prophecy says except in the broadest terms it allows all kinds of interpretations. Anakin IS the chosen one and DID bring balance to the Force. Does that mean he needed to destroy both the Jedi and Sith and have it all start over again? Maybe.