Did Padme look pregnant in the wedding scene?

Several people on this site have rendered the opinion that Natalie's stomach, and/or silhouette, looked bloated in the wedding scene of AOTC.

The claim has been made that, in digital theatres, it was OBVIOUS that Padme was pregnant.

I personally do not know... I was not watching in a digital theatre, nor did I LOOK for it... like most people, I was paying more attention to Anakin's mechanical arm than Padme's midsection.

This question has become important in at least two other threads.

Did anybody ELSE out there make such an obesrvation about Natalie's stomach?

Most importantly, can anyone post a still photograph of the wedding scene, so the issue can be laid to rest?

 

Considering it takes about 4 weeks for a pregnancy to show itself (including twins!) and that the events of AotC seemed to happen in a much shorter time period than that, I would say no.

 

Yes, there was indeed something about her stomach that seemed different than in the previous scenes. Pregnant did cross my mind. But I doubt if Senator Amidala was actually pregnant. The wedding have to have been between one and three days after the battle of Geonosis.

 

She probably just had PMS, the poor sod.

 

The topic is open to debate.

We see Anakin with his severed arm - then FLASH FORWARD to the wedding.

At the wedding he has a new arm.... therefore, SOME TIME elapsed.

Could it have been a week? A month? Several months?

There is NOTHING in the film that conclusively proves that the wedding took place IMMEDIATELY after their arrival on Naboo.

 

YES SHE WAS PREGNANT..I CAN GUARANTEE YOU THAT!..I SAW THE DIGITAL FORMAT 12 TIMES...NO DOUBT ABOUT THAT...SHE IS PREGNANT WITH LEIA. LUKE COMES LATER!

 

Chill out dude.

Is there anything in the novel to suggest a time period?

My reasoning that it is at most 2 weeks since the battle of Geonosis is this:

OBI-WAN: On his way back to Naboo. He is escorting Senator Amidala home. I must admit without the clones,it would not have been a victory.

YODA: Victory? Victory, you say? "

Judging from this dialogue it seems that it is just after the battle. I don't see why we should be led to believe that they are discussing their winning battle plans a month after the fact.

So Anakin escorts the Senator back to Naboo. Now, you can bet this would only be a short assignment seeing as there would be much more important things to wrap up on Coruscant. Anakin doesn't hang around on Naboo - he escorts Padme home, secretly marries and then returns to Coruscant. I think the Jedi Council would be reluctant to allow Anakin to stay longer than necessary because they know the bond those two have created. And they also know Anakin is likely to do something stupid as well.

 

Picture this:

"Victory?!" Speech by Yoda...

Anakin/Amidala go to Naboo...

TIME LAG (unseen on film)...

(while Anakin gets fitted for a new arm, Padme recovers from the wound on her back, they discuss the future, debate, conjecture, summon up courage, consummate, and ultimately DECIDE to wed - no particular order)...

...wedding scene.

 

PS - THERE IS NOTHING IN THE NOVEL TO PIN DOWN A TIME LINE.

Simply that the wedding happened AFTER the Yoda "Begun, this Clone War has" line.

NOTHING to say HOW LONG after that speech...

 

2 reasons why I don't think they spent that much time on Naboo:

1: Their love was a love of passion; of not thinking things through clearly which culminates in getting married when neither of them is ready for it.

2: As I mentioned before, I don't think the Jedi Council would allow Anakin to spend that much time away from the Council - especially after that whole Dooku debacle.

 

Observations:

Had Anakin ever defied the council before?

Did he zoom to Tatooine, to rescue his mom, against the orders of Obi-Wan?

Did he zoom off to rescue Obi-Wan, in spite of Windu telling him to stay put?

Could he have invented some cover story (Amidala is wounded - I must attend to her; I am wounded - she must attend to me) to prolong his stay on Naboo?

For that matter, could he not be GRANTED a convalescent leave of absence, after all he'd been through?

 

Hell, could he have actually QUIT the Jedi Order?

 

Could he have invented some cover story (Amidala is wounded - I must attend to her; I am wounded - she must attend to me) to prolong his stay on Naboo?

Even if she were wounded, I don't see how Anakin being there is going to help things. She would be better served being with her family.

For that matter, could he not be GRANTED a convalescent leave of absence, after all he'd been through?

Possibly, but Obi-Wan didn't mention anything of the sort, merely that he was escorting the Senator back to Naboo. The use of the word "escort" denotes that it was an assignment of sorts.

Hell, could he have actually QUIT the Jedi Order?

If that were the case I don't think Obi-Wan would've been so calm. And he definitely would've told Yoda that instead of his 'escort' line.

 

Obi-Wan may have been "calm" because ANAKIN HAD NOT YET ANNOUNCED HIS INTENTIONS TO DO ANY OF THESE THINGS.

MANY OF THEM MAY NOT HAVE HAPPENED/BEEN DECIDED UPON YET.

Again, the hypothetical time line:

1.Anakin gets severed limb.
2. Obi-wan says "Anakin is escorting Amidala home." This is true, a face-value fact. IT IS NOT A CRISIS YET.
2. Yoda: "BEGUN, THIS CLONE WAR HAS."
3. Padme and Anakin arrive on Naboo.
4. AN UNSEEN AMOUNT OF TIME PASSES. ANYTHING MAY HAVE HAPPENED FOR DAYS, WEEKS MONTHS.
5. Ani / Padme decide to wed.
6. Ani / Padme wed.

There may be all kinds of unseen things going on OFFSCREEN, after Anakin leaves Obi-Wan's presence, but BEFORE he weds Amidala.

Obi-Wan is calm because NONE OF THOSE COMPLICATIONS HAPPENED YET.

Obi-Wan HAS NO IDEA THAT ANAKIN IS GOING TO MARRY AMIDALA.

This happens LATER, unbeknownst to Obi-Wan.

 

I still have a problem with your number 4 and 5 because I don't believe that much time would've passed for the reasons I outlined.

Also, could you refrain from posting words in capitals. I know it looks cool, but it seems like you're shouting. Use italics if you need to highlight something.

Cheers.

 

"The reason(s) you cited?" Namely, that Obi-Wan did not seem visibly upset when last we saw him?

Why would Obi-Wan be upset about something (a decision/action/announcement by Anakin) that had NOT been decided upon/acted out/announced yet?

The problem did not yet exist!

He leaves Obi-Wan's line of sight - everything is OK at that moment.

THEN, and only then, Anakin makes some decisions. Time passes. All offscreen.

Flash forward to wedding.

Can you explain why Obi-Wan would be upset about a wedding that had not been decided upon yet? An announcement that had not yet been made? An absence from Anakin that had yet to occur?

(Can you also explain how to italicize text in this window?) )

 

Not because of Obi-Wan, but because of these reasons:

1: Their love was a love of passion; of not thinking things through clearly which culminates in getting married when neither of them is ready for it.

2: As I mentioned before, I don't think the Jedi Council would allow Anakin to spend that much time away from the Council - especially after that whole Dooku debacle.



To italicise stuff: [*i]stuff to italicise[/i] but without the *

There's a whole section on markup codes here

 

Okay, seeing as though we don't seem to be getting anywhere here, I thought we might try reverse engineering.

At the time of ANH, Luke is 18. AotC happens about 22 years before that though. So right there we have a discrepency. Now taking a bit of cinematic licence, it would be better for the children to be born before Episode 3. Why?

• We get to see the handover of the children
• Padme isn't running around with a big belly and can be involved in the action more
• Leia has to remember Padme
• GL can still preserve the secret that Luke and Leia are twins

So my money is on Padme and Anakin conceiving sometime between AotC and Episode 3 and the children being born in this time as well.

What I've yet to figure out is how and why the pregnancy is kept secret from Anakin.

 

there's absolutely no way that Padme is preggers at the end of AOTC.

 

Signs of a baby aren't evident that soon. Don't forget that AOTC happened over a couple DAYS.

And yes, it was proven that it happened days later. The previous shots showed things going on no more than a day after the battle of Geonosis.

 

Interceptor, do you say that as a question of morality, or based upon the hard evidence of having scrutinized Natalie's belly in the wedding scene?

 

Certain things may have happened, that George did not show us, between the time when Anakin left for Naboo, and the wedding.

Indeed, they may not have been emotionally "ready" to marry. The Stork will occasionally expedite matters.

 

She is pregnant in my opinion and most of my family and friends agree. Some time must have elapsed between the duel and the wedding. For one thing Palpatine's army has arrived in Coruscant. That takes its time. Secondly Obi Wan is severly injured in the duel yet he seems fine in his meeting with Yoda and Mace. Thirdly Anakin and Padmé both seem healed from their wounds and it must have taken some time to get that new arm for Anakin.
There is also the possibility that Lucas is making this scene symbolic. That he is simply telling the audience she will be pregnant at the beginning of Episode III. But one thing is certain: her stomach is bigger in the wedding scene than the arena battle. The only logical conclusion is that she is pregnant.

 

Honestly I think this is another incident of people seeing what they WANT TO SEE. There is no physical sign of pregnancy.

 

"There is no physical sign of pregnancy."

Yes there is - you're just not looking at them. All I know agree on this, including a doctor friend of mine. PADME IS PREGNANT.