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Discussion in 'Prequel Trilogy' started by rpvee, Oct 18, 2007.

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  1. rpvee

    rpvee Jedi Master star 3

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    During the Battle of the Heroes, while Vader is choking Obi-Wan on the table, the Sith Lord looks down at his former self's master with a burning fury... and then his mouth moves as if he is mouthing the words, well... I refuse to type them. But did Hayden add that little thing in? Or does it just look like he's saying it? And how could Lucas miss it?
     
  2. SithStarSlayer

    SithStarSlayer Manager Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Oh no my friend... he was talking to Kenobi. And how.
    There is much to Mustafar that still lies on the cutting room floor.
    What we saw was the WATERED-down version of 'teh battle of teh heroes'.


    Originally, Vader pounded Kenobi all over the place... mocking him almost every step of the way. What we got was a bowl of plain vanilla ice-cream instead of the dutch-chocolate, marble-swirled, caramel and hot fudge sunday with whip-cream and sprinkles on top.

    I hate vanilla.
     
  3. rpvee

    rpvee Jedi Master star 3

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    I know, but just watch that scene. It looks like Vader says something REALLY BAD to Kenobi (for a PG-13 film).
     
  4. SithStarSlayer

    SithStarSlayer Manager Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    There is speculation that he was actually saying:"You stupid nerfherder" Which really ain't all that bad.:p
     
  5. Darth_Drachonus

    Darth_Drachonus Jedi Master star 3

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    But it DOES look like he has a potty mouth lol
     
  6. SithStarSlayer

    SithStarSlayer Manager Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    What he was really saying was this:

    "You know that I originally beat your ass all over this fortress. Lucky for you, MASTER... Lucas' homies convinced him to make us look more evenly matched. You and I both know (as well as every single person thats seen the movies) that the darkside and my high midichlorian count should count for something... but apparently Lucas and his homies don't."
     
  7. Arawn_Fenn

    Arawn_Fenn Chosen One star 7

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    I thought it was just Lucas, not the homies.
     
  8. rumsmuggler

    rumsmuggler Chosen One star 7

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    [face_laugh]
     
  9. GrandAdmiral_Frank

    GrandAdmiral_Frank Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Me and my homies kick it like everyday.


     
  10. AnakinSucks

    AnakinSucks Jedi Youngling star 3

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    Looks like he is just straining.

    People make all sorts of odd faces when fighting against a heavy resistance.
     
  11. SithMaster_69

    SithMaster_69 Jedi Youngling star 2

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    Yeah, thats what I was thinking.

    But for those who think he was saying something, it looked to me like he was saying,"****** die!"
     
  12. SithStarSlayer

    SithStarSlayer Manager Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    IIRC, Mustafar was more about the others than it was Lucas... and 'Mr. Jurassic' was very heavy-handed.
    We didn't know the power of the homies, I must say it was a disaster.
    ;)
     
  13. jediking12

    jediking12 Jedi Youngling star 1

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    Don`t It!:)
     
  14. lovelucas

    lovelucas Jedi Master star 4

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    sure looked like Anakin was telling Obi-Wan to....reproduce himself..
    and although I can not cite a source there was a time - way back in 2005 - when there was a site to cite that Hayden was indeed "in the moment".

    a wee bit of method acting = thank you very much Lee Strasberg


    and does anyone else miss the posts by Cryogenic? Lift the purgatory, mods!
     
  15. Arawn_Fenn

    Arawn_Fenn Chosen One star 7

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    Where did you get this information? All I know is that Spielberg had something to do with the "lava rain".
     
  16. Matthew78

    Matthew78 Jedi Knight star 2

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    I thought he was saying "Jedi Poodoo" or give up, something either insulting or something telling Obi-Wan to surrender.
     
  17. SithMaster_69

    SithMaster_69 Jedi Youngling star 2

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    Is there an unedited uncut version of the duel where there is some dialogue during it?
     
  18. SithStarSlayer

    SithStarSlayer Manager Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Cryo's been banned?:eek: How long?:p Just goes to show what I know....o_O
     
  19. BattousaiCV

    BattousaiCV Jedi Youngling star 1

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    If it was indeed filmed like this originally, it really needs to be included as an extra in the next collection (whenever that may be).
     
  20. Emperor_Dantius

    Emperor_Dantius Jedi Master star 2

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    I know what you mean... I noticed it the first time I saw ROTS, and yes, there's little doubt that he's saying a four-letter word follwed by 'you'. If that was what you meant...
     
  21. Jedi_Master_Cazz

    Jedi_Master_Cazz Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    I always thought he was snarling, and I just checked it, it is hard to pick! But that line... Whoa! **** Die!"[/i] It's very Vader-esque! I always thought the bugga had a sharp tongue... :p

    Cheers_Cazza@};-
     
  22. obi-rob-kenobi4

    obi-rob-kenobi4 Jedi Master star 4

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    YES! he was saying this! if you look at it he definitely says the 4 letter word! i cought it the 2nd time i watched it and i think it works very well to. you can even put on the subtitles and it will say (mouthing words) at the bottem of the screen. he definitely says it!=D=
     
  23. anakinandpadmedoomed

    anakinandpadmedoomed Jedi Padawan star 4

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    :eek: He wouldnt, couldnt of said what I think you guys are saying he says.
     
  24. obi-rob-kenobi4

    obi-rob-kenobi4 Jedi Master star 4

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    oh,but he did...[face_laugh]
     
  25. RamRed

    RamRed Jedi Master star 4

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    Vader pounding on Kenobi all over the place? That would have been an even more boring fight than the one they had in ANH.
     
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