What a good thread. Lots of room for debate here. Keep the comments coming Lemon and JenX. I'm on your side. Perhaps it's noteworthy to describe what I did imagine as the most powerful Jedi master. Given a little thought, the most powerful Jedi master would have no need for any physical weapons. Yoda alludes to this in ESB (" . . . not this crude matter.") This means that he would be able to fight and subdue someone who is attacking him with a lightsabre, defending himself with whatever is around - a rock, a stick, a box. He would be able to channel the Force into these objects and thereby block a lightsabre, a blaster, Sith lightning. If I let my mind wonder - I can imagine someone far more powerful than we've seen - yet I digress and stray from the subject. To me, (IMHO), the Jedi Master I believed Yoda to be is far different that the Jedi Master I was shown. Ergo, to me, his credibility is diminished. . . . just another drop in the bucket.