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Discussion in 'Communications' started by Ender Sai , Jun 2, 2014.

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  1. Barriss_Coffee

    Barriss_Coffee Chosen One star 6

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    Geez Iron_Lord, you're such a pain in the rear. Between you and Blackmyron, who completely deserves being ignored as we've established in this thread, I don't even know why I bother going to Lit anymore. I mean seriously I log on this site in the morning and even before I've had my morning coffee I come across an Iron_Lord post and all I see is red. C'mon man don't you know when to let up? I just want to drink my morning coffee and read my Fantasy Flight updates in peace.
     
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  2. yeurgh

    yeurgh Jedi Knight star 3

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    Quite so.

    In real life, or on social media, one can choose those with whom one interacts. If I go for coffee with friends and my peace is disturbed by, say, a disgruntled, yawping ibex, I have the option of moving to another table or rapping the ibex sharply on the nose with a rolled-up newspaper. Similarly, if my peace on social media is disturbed by a deranged hog caller, I can unfollow/unfriend/delete or otherwise remove their bizarre and obnoxious shouting from my life.

    I very much enjoy the 'ignore' function here and would call for it to be extended such that it may be applied to moderators (who cannot, currently, be ignored). I recently posted the following to comms but have been redirected here:



    EHT raised the objection that this could lead to missed warnings from mods. Why not leave this down to personal choice? If I miss a warning and this results in a ban, so be it. Rather that than be constantly subjected to obnoxious yammering.
     
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  3. LAJ_FETT

    LAJ_FETT Tech Admin and Collecting/Lucasfilm Ltd Mod star 9 Staff Member Administrator

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    As is the system software doesn't allow mods/admins to be ignored.
     
  4. I Are The Internets

    I Are The Internets Force Ghost star 8

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    I'll have to do it the old fashioned way and use whiteout on my computer screen to block out the mods.

    In all seriousness, please disable the ignore function.
     
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  5. yeurgh

    yeurgh Jedi Knight star 3

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    I'm sure it's not beyond the wit of man to change a bit of code. Sure, it'd be a few hours' work but think of all the jimmies you'd unrustle.

    edit:

    Why? Reading the boards is a far better experience for me without seeing posts from certain users. The ignore function has a very real benefit.

    What greater benefit is there in disabling it? Or what harm does it do?
     
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  6. Ramza

    Ramza Administrator Emeritus star 8 VIP - Former Mod/RSA VIP

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    Sorry but I'm less than inclined to make it so that people can ignore the folks who are supposed to be... y'know, moderating their conduct. The fact that it would require either an extension or actual tinkering with the software is just the nail in the coffin.

    If for some reason the presence of a staff member's posts is that unpleasant to you, you should probably just scroll past anything that doesn't look like a warning.
     
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  7. yeurgh

    yeurgh Jedi Knight star 3

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    The beauty of the ignore function is that we can all moderate for ourselves. If someone finds my conduct unpleasant, they can ignore me and vice versa. It's a far better solution as it doesn't impose mores from above. For example, you may ban someone for calling an idiot 'an idiot' while I would quite like to continue to enjoy their posts. You may also ban someone for saying any of the four letter words that resolve to **** while that doesn't bother me in the slightest.

    What does bother me is people whose conversation options are limited, predictable and irritating. Like the disgruntled ibex in the short video below. You know s/he is going to respond to anything by either spitting or saying 'bleaaargh'. It's funny for a whole 30 seconds before it becomes abrasive and - with all the ibex saliva flying around - unsanitary.



    The reporter is asking for trouble by approaching and bothering the beast in its pen but we have here a situation in which ibex are allowed to roam free, spitting and 'bleaaargh'ing hither and yon. Fine if you can ignore them but when they - like the bad guy from Lethal Weapon 2 - have immunity, you end up with earache and a requirement for waterproof clothing.

    I suppose we still need moderators to remove things like piracy links, promotion of other websites, pornography etc. but the sooner they can be replaced with a bot, the better.
     
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  8. Darth Invictus

    Darth Invictus Jedi Master star 4

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    The function should remain there are certain people I simply don't have the patience for and as I don't wish to be banned find it more productive to ignore.
     
  9. jcgoble3

    jcgoble3 Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    Really? Consider the following post: "@InsertNameHere: I'm going to kill you." Nothing else in the body of the post. How is a bot supposed to determine whether this sentence is:
    1. An actual death threat,
    2. Friendly banter over a game of Star Wars Battlefront, or
    3. A sarcastic reply to a user posting a bad pun?
     
  10. Zejo the Jedi

    Zejo the Jedi Jedi Knight star 3

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    I would love this soooo ****ing much, but i know it's impossible.
     
  11. yeurgh

    yeurgh Jedi Knight star 3

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    No one here has sent me a death threat for years but, back in the day when it happened a fair bit, it was always via PM, so unmoderated in any case.

    In terms of identifying tone, Americans can't do that anyway. A decent bot would probably be more successful.
     
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  12. LAJ_FETT

    LAJ_FETT Tech Admin and Collecting/Lucasfilm Ltd Mod star 9 Staff Member Administrator

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    If you get a PM you consider threatening you should report it to one of us.
     
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  13. CEB

    CEB Force Ghost star 5

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    The OP in the locked thread which has now been posted here, and the subsequent follow up posts from that member, read to me as not-too-subtle attempted bullying of a mod. Not to mention that as a non-American myself, the "Americans don't get tone" comment above is clearly xenophobic.

    Reckon that guy can consider himself lucky not to be banned just for that - such comments directed at people who weren't mods would be likely to result in at least a strong warning, he's lucky mods have a thick skin
     
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  14. yeurgh

    yeurgh Jedi Knight star 3

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    [face_laugh]


    It's been years since I last had a death threat. I never actually felt threatened.
     
  15. anakinfansince1983

    anakinfansince1983 Nightsister of Four Realms star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    It's not a TOS violation to talk badly about the US, especially something along the lines of Americans not getting tone.

    I'm American and I'm not offended, and was not offended by America-criticism before I became a mod.

    Asking "why can't I put anyone from this group on ignore?" is not a violation either, whether the group is mods, Americans, or Anakin Skywalker fans. The answer may not be to the asker's liking but asking is not problematic per se.

    Telling another user specifically that you are putting him or her on ignore is considered a bait though.
     
  16. Anakin.Skywalker

    Anakin.Skywalker Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    There's been a time where I've been very grateful for the ignore feature. It makes things simpler, especially when it's just one person you're ignoring for a little while.
     
  17. EHT

    EHT Manager Emeritus star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    I'm not sure I would call that "raising an objection", because I'm not really debating this idea anyway. I was just pointing out an issue with the idea. At any rate, Ramza has since said this is a no-go anyway.
     
  18. theMaestro

    theMaestro Jedi Master star 3

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    I don't think the site's entire coding should be changed just to be able to ignore mods. But if people really want to ignore them, then it is possible to do (though if the mods don't want me to mention this method, then I won't, since I do understand that this could result in missed warnings).
     
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  19. Barriss_Coffee

    Barriss_Coffee Chosen One star 6

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  20. Ender Sai

    Ender Sai Bitterest Ex-Mod star 10

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    yeurgh, the ignore feature was put forward by the RMT and would probably vote to remove the most successfully ignored users from the ignore function so as to give other users a chance to be ignored. Moreover, if a lifting competition would be considered, the person with the lowest total lifted (notsayingbowenbutsayingbowen) would be the winner in the spirit of inclusion.

    In other words, it's dreadful and against the very values you stand for.
     
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  21. Dandelo

    Dandelo Force Ghost star 7

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    I don't see why though.

    If somebody has me on ignore I'd rather know so I don't waste time responding to any of their posts. If they can't see them (my posts) it would be pointless in me replying.
     
  22. Ender Sai

    Ender Sai Bitterest Ex-Mod star 10

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    Because it's unlikely the ignore happens in a vacuum so given it's the last step in a presumably heated exchange and it's designed to provoke a reaction that has 0% chance of being read...

    I mean, come on. It's the least controversial or opaque comment here.
     
  23. Dandelo

    Dandelo Force Ghost star 7

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    You'd be surprised...

    Also, did not find her comment controversial in the least.
     
  24. yeurgh

    yeurgh Jedi Knight star 3

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    [face_laugh] If I didn't have a grasp of logic, that would be a powerful argument indeed. As it is, as much as I hate the RMT and all things anti-meritocratic, I see no reason to forego the peace and quiet afforded by the ignore function. The boards without the posts of those on my ignore list is basically Shangri ****ing La.
     
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  25. Diggy

    Diggy Force Ghost star 7

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    Jabba-wocky please prove this person wrong by identifying intent in the proposed scenario.
     
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