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JCC Discussion Time: Let's Talk About Drafts - next draft?

Discussion in 'Community' started by DarthIntegral, Sep 13, 2007.

  1. heels1785

    heels1785 Skywalker Saga + JCC Manager / Finally Won A Draft star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    I would say no - and I looked into it, Allen should be fine without any objections. I must have been thinking of someone else that we debated in the past.

    Anyone else we should strike? Any more wrinkles and/or changes other than Inty's 2?
     
  2. MandaloreYak

    MandaloreYak Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    I have barely looked at the list. Hopefully after my nap. If it isn't a 4-hr nap.
     
  3. dp4m

    dp4m Chosen One star 10

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    I'm on the move again the next few days, so sign me up if y'all post it while I'm in the air.
     
  4. MandaloreYak

    MandaloreYak Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    Names in bold are too strong. Names italicized are too hard to judge. Notes underlined are suggested additions.

    We also lost a lot of people we had added to the list here.
    We also should add a Red Lantern (specify which) and make the 3 main GLs either 1 or 2 "(specify between the 3)" because we don't need 8 million GLs.

    Abomination
    Absorbing Man
    Adam Warlock
    Agent X
    Alexander Luthor, Jr.
    Alexander Nero
    Allen the Alien
    Amazo
    Angela
    Animal Man
    Annihilus
    Ant-Man (Choose version)
    Apocalypse
    Arachne
    Ares
    Asp / Black Mamba
    Atlas (Eric Josten)
    Atom Eve
    Atom Smasher
    Atomic Skull
    Atrocitus
    Aurora/Northstar
    Azrael
    Bane/Ragdoll
    Banshee/Siryn
    Baron Helmut Zemo (w/Moonstones)
    Baron Strucker
    Bastion
    Batgirl
    Batman/Catwoman
    Batwoman/Flamebird (Bette Kane)
    Beta Ray Bill
    Bizzaro
    Black Adam
    Black Bolt
    Black Lightning
    Black Manta
    Black Mask
    Black Panther
    Black Racer / Copperhead
    Black Samson
    Black Tom Cassidy
    Black Widow I / Winter Soldier
    Blackfire
    Blade
    Blade/Morbius
    Blastaar (pre cosmic control rod)
    Blink
    Blockbuster
    Blue Devil
    Boy Blue
    Bullseye/Moonstone
    Burnout
    Cable/Domino
    Callisto/Anna Lee
    Cannonball
    Captain America (Steve Rogers)/Falcon
    Captain Atom
    Captain Britain
    Captain Comet (post crisis only)
    Captain Marvel
    Captain Marvel Jr.
    Captain Nazi
    Carnage
    Cassandra Cain/Stephanie Brown
    Cassandra Nova Xavier
    Clayface (specify which)
    Clint Barton/Bobbi Morse
    Cloak/Dagger
    Coachwhip / Cobra
    Conquest
    Constrictor
    Cosmic Boy
    Crossbones / Sin
    Count Nefaria
    Cy-gor
    Cyber
    Cyborg Superman (no power rings)
    Cyclops/Jean Gray
    Daredevil/Elektra
    Darkhawk
    Darksied (we would NEED to establish that the losses to Orion and Superman weren't avatars. Most of his history is too strong for this draft)
    Deadpool/Taskmaster
    Deadshot/Catman
    Deathbird
    Deathstroke/Jericho
    Demogoblin
    Despero
    Doc Samson
    Doomsday(Gog Wars)
    Doppelganger
    Dr. Doom
    Dr. Fate
    Dr. Polaris
    Dr. Strange
    Drax the Destroyer
    Dupli-Kate/The Immortal
    Elsa Bloodstone
    Enchantress
    Etrigan, the Demon
    Evinlea
    Exodus
    Extant
    Fairchild
    Fin Fang Foom
    Firelord
    Firestar
    Firestorm (specify which)
    Freefall
    Garth Ranzz
    General Zod
    Geo-Force
    Genis-Vell
    Ghost Rider
    Giganta
    Gladiator
    Gorgon (Inhumans only, Shishido is too hard w that stare)
    Gorilla Grodd
    Grayven
    Green Arrow
    Green Lantern (Hal Jordan)
    Green Lantern (John Stewart)
    Green Lantern (Kyle Rayner)
    Green Lantern (choose which)[other than Hal, Kyle, John]
    Grunge
    Guardian (James "Mac" MacDonald Hudson)
    Hank Pym/Wasp
    Havok
    Hawkgirl/Hawkman
    Hector Hammond
    Hellboy
    Hellstorm
    Hercules
    Holocaust
    Human Torch (Johnny Storm)
    Ian Nottingham
    Ikaris
    Indigo
    Invincible
    Invisible Woman
    Ion
    Iron Fist/Luke Cage
    Iron Man
    Jade
    Jakeem Thunder
    Juggernaut
    Kalibak
    Kang the Conqueror
    KGBeast
    Kid Flash
    Killer Croc
    Killer Frost
    Kingpin
    Knockout/Scandal
    Lady Deathstrike
    Lady Shiva/Black Canary
    Lex Luthor
    Live Wire
    Lizard
    Lobo
    Loki
    Longshot
    Luke Cage
    M (Monet)
    Machine Man
    Mad Thinker
    Madelyne Pryor
    Maestro
    Magik
    Magneto
    Major Force
    Mandarin
    Martian Manhunter
    Marvel Boy (Noh-Varr)
    Marvel Girl (Rachel Summers)
    Master Mold
    Maxima
    Meltdown
    Metallo
    Metamorpho
    MODOK
    Mongul (no Power Ring)
    Monica Rambeau
    Mongul the First (just... no)
    Monster Girl/Robot
    Moon Knight
    Moondragon
    Morbius
    Morlun
    Mr. Fantastic
    Mr. Freeze
    Mr. Majestic (prep too strong)
    Mr. Sinister
    Mr. Terrific
    Ms. Marvel
    Multiple Man
    Mystique
    Namor
    Namorita
    Nightshade
    Nightwing/Starfire
    Nimrod
    Nova
    Obsidian
    Omega Red
    Omni-Man
    Onslaught
    Orion
    Overt-kill
    Parasite
    Penance
    Pitt
    Plastic Man
    Plutonian
    Poison Ivy
    Polaris
    Post
    Power Girl
    Professor X
    Puck
    Purple Man
    Quasar
    Quicksilver
    Qztr
    Ra's Al Ghul/Talia Al Ghul
    Radioactive Man
    Ragman
    Ragnarok
    Rainmaker
    Raven
    Red Hood (Jason Todd)
    Red Skull/Heinrich Zemo
    Red Tornado
    Rex Splode
    Rhino
    Ronan the Accuser
    Rulk (he's just stupid)
    Sabretooth
    Sasquatch
    Scarecrow
    Scorpion (Carmilla Black)
    Sebastian Shaw
    Selene
    Sentinel (Mutant-hunting robot)
    Sentinel (Alan Scott)
    Shadow King (original body)
    She-Hulk
    Silver Surfer (veeeery iffy on this one, esp w his powerup a few yrs ago)
    Sinestro
    Siryn
    Skaar
    Solomon Grundy
    Songbird
    Spawn
    Spider-Man/Black Cat
    Spider-Woman (Jessica Drew)
    Star Sapphire (specify which)
    Stargirl
    Starlord/Rocket Racoon
    Steel (specify which)
    Strong Guy
    Stryfe
    Super Skrull
    Superboy Prime
    Supergirl
    Superman
    Swamp Thing
    Talisman
    Temugin (whoever is thinking of picking him should ask how he'll be judged. His appearances are wildly different in power)
    Terrax
    Thanos
    The Darkness
    The Flash (specify which)
    The Incredible Hulk (specify which) (like it's not gonna be Green Scar)
    The Joker/Harley Quinn
    The Midnighter
    The Punisher
    The Savage Dragon
    The Sentry
    The Shapesmith
    The Shark (Karshon)
    The Thing
    The Wrecker/Thunderball
    Thor
    Tiger Shark
    Titania
    Toxin (specify which?)
    Ultra-boy
    Ultron
    Umbra
    Unus the Untouachable
    US Agent
    Vandal Savage
    Venom (specify Eddie Brock or Mac Gargan or Flash Thompson)
    Vermin
    Vindicator
    Violater
    Volcana
    Vulcan
    Wade Elling (Shaggy Man)
    War Machine
    Warbird
    Witchblade
    Wonder Man
    Wonder Woman
    X-Man
    Zoom (Hunter Zolomon)


    MI-13
    Pete Wisdom
    Faiza Hussain
    Spitfire
    Death's Head II
    Motormouth
    Killpower
    Black Knight
    Union Jack



    Runaways/Young Avengers
    Chase
    Hawkeye
    Hulkling
    Karolina Dean
    Klara Prast
    Molly Hayes
    Nico
    Old Lace
    Patriot
    Speed
    Stature
    Victor
    Vision
    Wiccan
    Xavin

    Sinister Six
    Dr. Octopus
    Electro
    Hobgoblin
    Kraven the Hunter
    Mysterio
    Sandman
    Shocker
    Vulture

    Teen Titans
    Aquagirl
    Blue Beetle(Jaime Reyes)
    Miss Martian
    Ravager
    Red Devil
    Red Robin (Tim Drake)
    Solstice
    Static
    Superboy
    Wonder Girl

    X-Men
    Angel
    Anole
    Armor
    Beast
    Bishop
    Bling!
    Blindfold
    Boom-Boom
    Dazzler
    Dust
    Frenzy
    Gambit
    Gentle
    Graymalkin
    Hellion
    Iceman
    Match
    Mercury
    Nightcrawler (specify 616 or AoA)
    Pixie
    Psylocke
    Rockslide
    Rogue
    Surge
    Storm
    Transonic
    Velocidad
    Woverine
    X-23
     
  5. heels1785

    heels1785 Skywalker Saga + JCC Manager / Finally Won A Draft star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    Not inclined to drop Doomsday, Annihilus, Juggernaut, Ultron, X-Man, and especially not Magneto. I do not want a neutered draft like the one we had last go round, Yak.

    If you know the names you want to add, put them out there.
     
  6. DarthIntegral

    DarthIntegral JCC Baseball Draft/SWC Draft Commish star 9 VIP - Former Mod/RSA VIP - Game Host

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    I'd be in favor of dropping or specifying/neutering Ultron.
     
  7. EmpireForever

    EmpireForever Force Ghost star 8

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    Just go with what I said.

    Also lose Hal and Kyle. Make someone take Guy if they want a lantern.


    I think you can go ahead and add Thragg, if you want. < or > Superman, depending on how you feel about Invincible.
     
  8. MandaloreYak

    MandaloreYak Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    You do realize last draft was neutered way more than dropping those guys and it was on purpose right?

    Oh well, I'll play pretty much no matter what.
     
  9. BartSimpson-SithLord

    BartSimpson-SithLord Manager Emeritus star 5 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    But he's my Red Lantern!...


    ....

    Okay, it's really Bleez. It's always Bleez.
     
  10. MandaloreYak

    MandaloreYak Jedi Grand Master star 5

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  11. Jordan1Kenobi

    Jordan1Kenobi SWC Jedi Draft Champion star 6 VIP - Game Winner

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    Where is Aquaman and Cyborg? Are they too hard to judge after their changes in the New 52?

    Some suggestions to add: A-Bomb, Attuma, Big Barda, Booster Gold, Cheetah, Colossus, Deathlok, Dove (Paired with Hawk), Dracula, Emma Frost, Fandral (Paired with either Hogun, Lady Sif or Volstagg), Frankenstein's Monster, Gamora (Paired with Star-Lord), Green Goblin, Groot (Paired with Rocket Racoon), Hawk (Paired with Dove), Heimdall, Hogun (Paired with either Fandral, Lady Sif or Volstagg), John Constantine, Klarion the Witch Boy, Lady Sif (Paired with either Fandral, Hogun or Volstagg), Leader, Malekith, Man-Thing, Mantis, Mera, Mister Miracle, Prometheus, Red She-Hulk, Saint Walker, Shadowcat, Valkyrie, Vixen, Volstagg (Paired with either Fandral, Hogun or Lady Sif) and Zzzax.

    I know you probably have a reason not to include some of these, but I've only played the last comic draft, so I wouldn't know why. But I think I know why Elongated Man and Zatanna aren't included.
     
  12. MandaloreYak

    MandaloreYak Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    Oh yes, New 52... No New 52 right?
     
  13. EmpireForever

    EmpireForever Force Ghost star 8

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    That reminds me: Put Blue and Gold on there.
     
  14. dp4m

    dp4m Chosen One star 10

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    I thought it was White/Gold or Blue/Black?
     
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  15. whiteeagle

    whiteeagle Jedi Master star 6

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    Let's include the New 52. Shake things up.
     
  16. heels1785

    heels1785 Skywalker Saga + JCC Manager / Finally Won A Draft star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    I know Yakster is out of town for the weekend, but do we want to shoot for next week as a start? I think the no time/reality manipulation rules that EF proposed work well, keep everyone else on.
     
  17. dp4m

    dp4m Chosen One star 10

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    What is we warp back to now and change that decision?
     
  18. DarthTunick

    DarthTunick SFTC VII + Deadpool BOFF star 10 VIP - Game Host

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    Next weekend would work fine for me. :p
     
  19. DarthIntegral

    DarthIntegral JCC Baseball Draft/SWC Draft Commish star 9 VIP - Former Mod/RSA VIP - Game Host

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    The sooner I get to judge you ********, the better
     
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  20. whiteeagle

    whiteeagle Jedi Master star 6

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  21. dp4m

    dp4m Chosen One star 10

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    Hi, I like comics?
     
  22. heels1785

    heels1785 Skywalker Saga + JCC Manager / Finally Won A Draft star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    Sorry, I got crushed at work last week. Shoot for next weekend?

    MandaloreYak are you going to be able to play
     
  23. MandaloreYak

    MandaloreYak Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    Dunno how well, but probably.
     
  24. dp4m

    dp4m Chosen One star 10

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    We've now delayed long enough to bump up against CVII soon... :p
     
  25. BartSimpson-SithLord

    BartSimpson-SithLord Manager Emeritus star 5 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Supes: "Hey, Bruce, remember that t-shirt and jeans combo I rocked at the beginning of the New52? The one nobody liked and Johns refused to use in Justice League? Yeah, I'm bringing it back. Just ditched the cape and got this new shield."

    "Batman": "Uh....yes, yes I do recall that as I am obviously not James Gordon in a Bat-mech suit, Superman. Nope, I'm Batman. heh heh heh."

    Supes: "No need to be formal, man, call me Clark. Say, is there something new about you?"