Games Discussion Time: Let's Talk About Drafts - next draft?

Discussion in 'Community' started by DarthIntegral, Sep 13, 2007.

  1. MandaloreYak Force Ghost

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    Trimaj you'll probably be fine. In fact you'll probably be very good.
  2. Dark Lord Of The Empire Jedi Grand Master

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    Looking forward to the next sports related draft, whenever everyone wants to do one. I know we have the comic one going right now, but would love to do a sports one sometime soon. I was looking at the threads of the previous drafts and it looks like a lot of fun.
  3. heels1785 Community & Prequel Trilogy Manager

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    My vote is for Video Games.
  4. dp4m Chosen One

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    Let's do a JC Draft Draft! (I choose heels...)
  5. DarthIntegral Game Winner

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    Me, too.

    I'd also be willing to participate in MTV
  6. dp4m Chosen One

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    What the hell is an MTV draft?
  7. DarthIntegral Game Winner

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    Movie and Television


    Or, MTV celebs. Your choice.
  8. heels1785 Community & Prequel Trilogy Manager

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    I select Condoleeza Rice.
  9. EmpireForever Chosen One

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    ill see about getting the latest lists for everything out of storage. Vg needs some work.
  10. Mikaboshi Force Ghost

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    I would play anything, though don't expect me to be competitive at VG.


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  11. dp4m Chosen One

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    Comic Book Draft at high power but not Galactus/Eternity cosmic level?
  12. EmpireForever Chosen One

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    We did that the previous version.

    I think I am leaning towards VG. I suppose it depends on whether or not I can get judges.

    I'll run a game with whichever gets the most volunteers, so just let me know if you'd like to judge VG or animated (or MTV even) and I'll update all of the lists just in case.
  13. Mikaboshi Force Ghost

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    Of the two I could do a half assed job of judging the MTV, VG not at all.
  14. DarthIntegral Game Winner

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    I'd rather play vg, but I can judge it.
  15. The Great No One Force Ghost

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    suppose i could probably judge VG, since i've played enough of them.
  16. EmpireForever Chosen One

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    All right, so, apparently those posts can't be restored. Looks like we're building lists from scratch over here. Suggestions welcome starting now.
  17. Point Given Mod of Literature and Community

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    I don't mind judging for Video Games. Its' gonna be one hell of a list though for it, unless you want to set some cutoffs?
  18. EmpireForever Chosen One

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    I'll judge cutoffs as we add games, I guess. But. Pretty much no cutoffs right now.

    Let's try to be reasonable.

    I managed to dig this up, at least, from @Wang Chi's post in this thread a few years ago:

    Bioshock

    Jack
    Frank Fontaine
    Subject Delta/Eleanor Lamb


    Castlevania

    Alucard
    Soma Cruz
    Richter Belmont/Simon Belmont/Trevor Belmont


    Chrono Trigger/Chrono Cross

    Crono
    Frog
    Lucca/Robo
    Magus
    Marle/Ayla
    Ozzie/Slash/Flea
    Zeal
    Lynx (Cross)
    Serge (Cross)


    Darkstalkers

    Demitri Maximoff
    Morrigan Aensland
    Jon Talbain
    Felicia


    Devil May Cry

    Dante
    Lady/Trish
    Nero
    Vergil


    Dragon Age *characters from this game are taken in teams of three*

    The Warden *specify race and class*
    Alistair
    Morrigan
    Leliana
    Sten
    Wynne
    Oghren
    Zevran
    Shale
    Dog
    Duncan
    Loghain Mac Tir


    Final Fantasy

    Terra Branford (VI)
    Celes Chere (VI)
    Edgar Roni Figaro (VI)
    Sabin Rene Figaro (VI)
    Kefka (VI)
    Ultros (VI)
    Cloud Strife (VII)
    Sephiroth (VII)
    Tifa Lockheart (VII)
    Vincent Valentine (VII)
    Red XIII (VII)
    Zack Fair (Crisis Core)
    Genesis Rhapsodos (Crisis Core)
    Squall Leonhart (VIII)
    Quistis Trepe (VIII)
    Zell Dincht (VIII)
    Seifer Almasy (VIII)
    Zidane Tribal (IX)
    Garnet Til Alexandros XVII (IX)
    Vivi Ornitier (IX)
    Kuja (IX)
    Tidus (X)
    Auron (X)
    Lulu (X)
    Yuna (X)
    Seymour Guado (X)
    Ashe (XII) *primarily black mage*
    Balthier (XII) *primarily gun user*
    Basch fon Ronsenberg (XII) *primarily heavy melee*
    Vaan (XII) *primarily light melee*
    Vayne Carudas Solidor (XII)
    Lightning (XIII)
    Snow Villiers (XIII)
    Hope Estheim (XIII)
    Jihl Nabaat (XIII)
    Cidolfus Orlandeau (Tactics)


    Guilty Gear

    Dizzy
    Judgment
    Justice
    Ky Kiske
    Sol Badguy
    Testament


    Jade Empire

    The Last Spirit Monk *open palm or closed fist*
    Sun Li
    Death's Hand


    Kingdom Hearts

    Sora
    Riku
    Xemnas
    Saix
    Xaldin
    Xigbar


    Mass Effect *Non-antagonist characters from this game are taken in teams of three*

    Shepard *specify paragon or renegade and class*
    Ashley Williams
    Liara T'Soni
    Kaidan Alenko
    Urdnot Wrex
    Garrus Vakarian
    Tali'Zorah vas Normandy
    Grunt
    Jack
    Jacob Taylor
    Miranda Lawson
    Mordin Solus
    Samara (or Morinth *specify which*)
    Thane Krios
    Kasumi Goto
    Saren Arterius/Benezia


    Metroid

    Samus Aran
    Dark Samus
    Ridley


    Metal Gear

    Solid Snake
    Liquid Snake
    Big Boss/The Boss
    Raiden
    Gray Fox
    The Pain/The Fear/The Fury
    Revolver Ocelot/Psycho Mantis/Vulcan Raven
    Crying Wolf/Raging Raven/Laughing Octopus


    Mortal Kombat

    Liu Kang
    Sub-Zero
    Raiden
    Scorpion
    Shang Tsung
    Quan Chi
    Shao Kahn
    Onaga
    Goro/Kintaro/Sheeva
    Noob Saibot/Smoke


    Ninja Gaiden

    Ryu Hayabusa
    Doku
    Genshin
    Elizebet
    Volf


    No More Heroes

    Travis Touchdown
    Henry
    Jeane
    Shinobu


    Onimusha

    Samanosuke Akechi
    Soki
    Jubei Yagyu
    Jacques Blanc
    Nobunaga Oda


    Resident Evil

    Albert Wesker
    Alexia Ashford
    Chris Redfield/Jill Valentine/Sheva Alomar
    Leon Kennedy/Claire Redfield/Ada Wong
    Osmund Saddler/Bitores Mendez


    Skies of Arcadia

    Vyse
    Aika/Fina
    Piastol
    Galcian
    Ramirez


    Sonic the Hedgehog

    Sonic
    Shadow
    Knuckles


    Street Fighter

    Ryu
    Ken Masters
    Chun-Li
    Guile
    Akuma
    Gill
    M. Bison
    Seth


    Suikoden Series

    Tir McDohl
    Riou/Jowy Atreides
    Luc
    Lazlo
    Frey Falenas/Lyon
    Luca Blight
    Neclord
    Yuber


    Tekken series

    Jin Kazama
    Kazuya Mishima
    Heihachi Mishima
    Paul Phoenix
    Nina Williams
    Bryan Fury


    Twisted Metal series *all characters get their vehicles*

    Sweet Tooth
    Mr. Grimm
    Minion
    Axel


    Warcraft

    Arthas *Death Knight only*
    Thrall
    Illidan Stormrage
    Sylvanas Windrunner
    Jaina Proudmoore


    Xenogears/Xenosaga

    Fei Fong Wong (gears)
    Grahf (gears)
    Citan Uzuki (gears)
    Emerald


    I'm not sure if that's cut off or not. Probably could use a little work though.
    Last edited by EmpireForever, Oct 10, 2014
  19. Jordan1Kenobi Host of EUC Battle of... Games

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    I'd love to do this.
  20. The Great No One Force Ghost

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    you really wouldn't jordan... there are soooooooo many problems with that power level. >_<
  21. Jordan1Kenobi Host of EUC Battle of... Games

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    What about if we lower it to Silver Surfer or even Superman level and below?
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  22. heels1785 Community & Prequel Trilogy Manager

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    I'm with Jordan. There are problems and inconsistencies in every draft, including the last one. Might as well bring everyone in.
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  23. Mikaboshi Force Ghost

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    There really isn't a problem with those power levels, just requires more research. Seeing as how little research/studying some judges did this time around I could see where the perception of more power = more problems comes from though.

    Having judged many drafts I know first hand that the moment you get complacent with it you start making asinine calls, no person who has ever judged is exempt from that.

    That holds true in every draft, at every level of power.
    Last edited by Mikaboshi, Oct 11, 2014
  24. The Great No One Force Ghost

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    i'm just remembering exactly how many complaints and irritations there were pertaining to those higher power levels specifically. everyone always says it'll be fine, and the exact same problems crop up every time, consistently, and everyone is like we really shouldn't open up this can of worms again. two or three drafts later they always do. while i wasn't in most of them, i've gone back and read through most of them, and it was consistent.

    but not up to me. i'll help with a VG draft if there's problems finding a third judge, but i'm probably not going to be involved in anything else honestly.
  25. Mikaboshi Force Ghost

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    I have been in all of them, and that isn't really accurate. A few people always complained (usually the same people), the majority didn't. People did complain about inconsistent judging though, always have, that is regardless of the level of power involved.

    Most of the issues have always revolved around what is considered "peak" or "sustained". The exact level of power those terms referred to doesn't matter, in fact we had the exact same issues in the last draft where the top end power levels were limited.