Discussions Disney throwing out the EU?

Discussion in 'EU Community' started by Guinastasia, Jan 11, 2014.

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  1. Carrie Walsh Jedi Master

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    I haven't gotten as into the EU as some fans do, but I still consider myself a fan. I would hate to think that, after Episode VII, all these stories and characters we've come to know and love mean nothing to the overall saga anymore. It just seems like such a waste.

    The Thrawn Trilogy & Dark Empire comics are gold. I've considered them official story arcs for years... How can we be expected to just forget about this stuff? Is everything post-Return of the Jedi being wiped out, or the entire EU, including games & TV shows?

    If someone could explain this "new canon" that is supposed to do away with the levels of canon hierarchy, that would be nice too. Thanks.
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  2. Darth_Nub Saga, Classic Trilogy and Film Music Manager

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    Hi @Carrie Walsh, welcome to the boards - the Saga forum is for discussions about the films, not the Expanded Universe.

    Moving to the EU Community forum.
  3. Bardan_Jusik Mand'alor - Manager of the EUC, SWC and Spinoffs

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    ...and I am going to merge it with our existing discussion. Welcome to the boards Carrie, and thanks for moving this here Darth Nub.

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  4. mes520 Jedi Grand Master

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    How do you think they'll do this? Will they do some kind of announcement within the next year about what is and what is not canon? A list probably.


    Or will there be any announcement at all? And we'll find out on Dec 18th 2015?
  5. Bardan_Jusik Mand'alor - Manager of the EUC, SWC and Spinoffs

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    I think the best bet is to just wait and see.

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  6. Fat_Rancor_Keeper Jedi Grand Master

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    Who knows at this early point.

    Maybe they'll just take the most popular/beloved elements from the EU and tweak them to suit their vision. Meaning the Thrawn events happened but with minor differences which can be established in a rebooted book or graphic novel as well as other rebooted EU stories.

    I don't think they'd toss everything out the window. Then again, Disney did cancel 1313 and pull the plug early on TCW.
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  7. Sinrebirth SWC and EUC Forum Moderator

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    The plug pulling was perfectly pulled though - Ahsoka is free, Maul is dealt with, no loose ends bar Mortis which Abeloth deals with instead.


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  8. Amon_Amarth Force Ghost

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    I don't think Disney had much to do with TCW. Back in 2008, it was decided that they'll go with about 100 episodes, meaning 5 seasons. And as Sinre said, there weren't many loose ends, so it doen't feel cut.
  9. Donaldson Force Ghost

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    Everything in that article from the interview with Leland Chee I had already read in much more neutral articles the other week. Where other sites chose to view it in a more positive light, wherein SW material outwith the movies will now have more credence than they necessarily did before. This guy clearly dislikes the EU and let it overshadow the actual story he was supposed to be trying to report.

    Personally, whatever they decide to throw out or contradict it makes little difference to me. They can`t make those stories disappear, and at the very worst I can just choose to imagine it all as an alternate time line so I can still enjoy the EU as is.
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  10. Fat_Rancor_Keeper Jedi Grand Master

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    Yeah the Ashoka stuff was fine. Maul was not dealt with though - that was a total cliffhanger. Thankfully they will be doing a comic to complete the Maul story using the intended script.

    Pulling the plug perfectly in my eyes would have been allowing the team to complete any remains major story arcs, cut any intended episodes not integral and maybe having a final mini-season or official blu release.
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  11. Carrie Walsh Jedi Master

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    The Clone Wars storylines are going to be finished. A few more episodes are planned to be released (probably on DVD/Blu ray only), kind of a speed run through everything they had planned for season 6, plus the Maul comics.

    I still think it's dumb that Disney cancelled it just because it aired on a competitor's network. How hard would it have been to get it moved over to Disney Channel?

    As for the rest of the EU being deemed non-canon, it's true that they can't keep us from enjoying the stories. I just don't like the fact that they probably won't be official anymore. It just bugs me that they think its okay to let us get attached to certain plots and characters & then tell us "sorry, it never happened, here's the real version."

    I'm keeping my fingers crossed that Episode VII will somehow manage to work as a stand-alone movie, but still be able to be worked into the already established EU timeline.
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  12. Cushing's Admirer Force Ghost

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    As for the rest of the EU being deemed non-canon, it's true that they can't keep us from enjoying the stories. I just don't like the fact that they won't be official anymore. It just bugs me that they think its okay to let us get attached to certain plots and characters & then tell us "sorry, it never happened, here's the real version."

    I absolutely agree with you on this. Yet, it's really not surprising. New owners new vision. Yet, it really does totally bug that it's happened now with so much history in the rather small spans of timeline explored. I rather don't like the idea that not only is Gilad dead because of a girl I never liked but that he may well be deemed 'never existed'. Yes, he did. He was one of the first EU characters ever in a book. He was *awesome*.
  13. DarthBarrister Jedi Master

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    I don't really care about the potential to make segments of the EU non-canon. I enjoy the novels, and they're fun to read, so they're "real" as far as I'm concerned. I do worry that they'll just be taken off the shelves, though, and the only way to get them is by relying on what I can find at the used store. Going to have to get everything I can.
  14. Zeta1127 Force Ghost

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    I bought into the EU specifically because it was the official continuation of the films, and ended up becoming so heavily invested in it, that I can't see the films without EU tie-in material directly related to them, like Labyrinth of Evil and Shadows of the Empire, coming to mind. So if LFL decides the throw it out the window, what are people like me supposed to do, not care about what happens? It is because I care that I can be so despondent about the post-NJO, TCW, and TFU.
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  15. Jedifirefly5 Jedi Grand Master

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    That article is what happens when some Trekkietard gets free license to berate the cool kids.
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  16. Cushing's Admirer Force Ghost

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    Trek is cool, you know. That has nothing to do with it.
  17. CommanderDrenn Jedi Grand Master

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    Agreed. I think I have OCD, no exaggeration, so continuity isquite important to me.
  18. Cushing's Admirer Force Ghost

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    That makes sense, Drenn. :)
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  19. newdawn12 Force Ghost

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  20. Anakin Solo Revanchist Jedi Grand Master

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    Too much important stuff happened in Thrawn and Dark Empire (remind me to ACTUALLY read Thrawn one of these days) for it to be thrown out completely, I would hope. But there's no way to know just yet where the new trilogy is going to go. Well, maybe there is, but I don't want to be spoiled. :p
  21. Corellian_Outrider Admin FF | Art Curator | Oceania RSA | CR of NSW

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    Some of the established material might be used but taken to a different direction that what we know from the source. Little nods for the fans while doing something new.

    I am sure we will find out later in the year or next about the direction they will take with the films and the character centric films.
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  22. Grade Jedi Master

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    I for one, have been greatly disappointed with the last two years or so of the Expanded Universe. Didn't like the direction of the events after NJO.

    So a reboot doesn't affect me much. At a point I welcome it. What about some of the stories I like, like the X-Wing series? Well I would be disappointed not being canon, but they can never take the enjoyment I had and will have if read them in the future with that series.

    So here hoping a more fun, enjoyment and coherent Expanded Universe.
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  23. Fastback Jedi Master

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    I would have a hard time if they ignore EU completely for VII. I can see them ignoring the Yuuzhan Vong to bring back Chewie and Anakin. I just hope JJ script makes sense to all PT,OT and EU fans.
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  24. Falcon Chosen One

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    I agree it's still in the early stages, won't know what goes on until they release the trailers
  25. BenKenobi1138 Jedi Padawan

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    @newdawn12 there is no way that can be true, are you sure that isn't just some disgruntled employee?
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